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Re: HMD Touch 4G

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Post by martheen »

jeroenhd wrote: post #36

The device came out about a year ago: https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-HMD-Touch-4G-is-an-all-scr... It looks like it's still India-exclusive. I haven't heard much about it online, and with a dedicated chat app I would've expected to if it was a success. Did it bomb?

A dedicated app that's only compatible with itself and only have miniscule install count means nothing. I tried downloading it and it only even support 4 countries prefix at the moment. It's also not that cheaper compared to "proper" smartphone from other brands in that area. Notebookcheck says it's launched with 3999 rupees while I see Itel Zeno 10 is just 4769 rupees. With India's unskilled labor minimum monthly wage about 20000 rupees I don't think anyone would care about the price difference.

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Post by m463 »

amelius wrote: post #47
alfanick wrote: post #19

What is special about this? Does it cost $20? Is it a cheap smart phone (why do they call it a hybrid phone?) targetting India (mentioning of cricket)?

It says "Small phone". And it is indeed smaller than most smartphones. Apple never made a small smartphone, presumably because they need the big screen for their vending-machine-in-your-pocket to sell more content.

many people await the return of the iphone mini...

Re: HMD Touch 4G

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Post by wolvoleo »

m463 wrote: post #62
amelius wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It says "Small phone". And it is indeed smaller than most smartphones. Apple never made a small smartphone, presumably because they need the big screen for their vending-machine-in-your-pocket to sell more content.

many people await the return of the iphone mini...

Yes you still see so many around. They might not have sold enough by Apple standards but they still sold in huge absolute numbers.

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Post by walrus01 »

puzzlingcaptcha wrote: post #29
alfanick wrote: post #19

What is special about this? Does it cost $20? Is it a cheap smart phone (why do they call it a hybrid phone?) targetting India (mentioning of cricket)?

The little print at the end says "Currently only available in India." Reminds me a bit of HMD's KaiOS feature phones but this is apparently Android?

> The little print at the end says "Currently only available in India."

I think that was made obvious by the big thing on the marketing website scroll about checking cricket scores.

Re: HMD Touch 4G

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Post by uni_baconcat »

moffkalast wrote: post #38
traceroute66 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> New towers aren't backwards compatible, and the bandwidth has been largely reduced. Yup. In tech-speak there is 5G NSA (Non-Standalone Architecture) and 5G SA (Standalone Architecture). 5G NSA is a kludge, it is 5G radios operating on a legacy 4G core. Inherently backwards compatible. 5G SA is 5G radios on 5G core. Clearly not backwards compatible. 5G SA is the preferred route for good reason: 1. It delivers reduce…

And it also planned-obsoletes 4G only devices, a big win for the operators that can then sell new 5G capable ones. Such a racket I swear. Can't wait to go through this shit again for 6G in about 5 years, like we did for 3G.

They can replace 2G/3G IoT with LTE, but cannot with 5G (due to energy consumption).

5G RedCap is the solution, but that will need new infrastructure and chipset. LTE will stay at least for another ten years.

Re: HMD Touch 4G

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Post by zoom6628 »

nor0x wrote: post #30

the hardware design reminds me of the Nokia Lumias, a black rounded display glass within a straight squared colored unibody https://m.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_920-pictures-4967.php the good old days

Reminds me a lot of my old Nokia 525 with windows. Great form factor for running and hiking. If this one got GPS I would buy it. But it's up against excellent full function phones like bluebox and veelo from China which make stunningly good small phones.
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