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$100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by geraldmcboing »

camillomiller wrote: post #389
scrollop wrote: post #298

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As much as I don't want jobs taken away by AI, a creative person with a vision that would usually required $1 million budget, could create such a video using AI by being very specific in what they require which would not be a " grey goo of the average of every concept " eg. "scene 32, same 2 characters from the previous scene, now dressed in the garb of Egyption middle kingdom high priests, though with cat faces, dan…

Have you ever experienced real artistic process? Because each and every comment from -presumedly- tech people that follow along these lines above is inevitably proof that the author does not grok creative processes at all, and they assume it’s just another algorithmic endeavor, or a collation of serial inputs. This mentality is awful.

well said.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by geraldmcboing »

xbmcuser wrote: post #293
hbn wrote: post #257

Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

A talented creative with a vision can now direct AI to build things that would have otherwise cost millions or been entirely impossible. I don’t understand the myopic view people have when it comes to this technology. Just three or four years ago, we saw the exact same skepticism with programming. People insisted it can't do this and it can't do that, but many of those things are possible today.

But there is no evidence of this - its is your hypothetical reckons. If a "talented creative" wanted realism, they can already access it and in a reliable, repeatable, direct-able way using all of their lived experience. Your idea of 'directing AI' just shows you haver never directed a human actor, or collaborated with a talented DOP etc. All you describe is an unreliable shortcut to shiny blandness and call anyone who points out your massive blindspot 'myopic'. It would appear it is you who is profoundly myopic about the reality of producing creative work of worth.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by geraldmcboing »

xbmcuser wrote: post #390
arrrg wrote: post #300

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This tech isn’t steerable enough when it comes to creative output. Maybe there are some nooks and crannies where this tech can be employed and actually save time/budget. Maybe. But what does not work is to just take the output and use it. There is nowhere near enough precision there.

Yes today but the statements coming out of people are like as if the tech is static and not changing everyday. It was the same for programming it can't do this it can't do that till it is able to now.

You are describing false equivalency. There is a fundamental flaw to LLMs. The data is not weighted. Thats why it cant be reliably directed.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by geraldmcboing »

starshadowx2 wrote: post #305
zeofig wrote: post #297

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It remains godawful slop in every instance I've seen, no matter how expensive it would be to produce without AI.

I think this new one made with Seedance 2.5 is actually not too bad. https://x.com/BytePlusGlobal/status/2077321849806234080

its out of sync such that it would fail a basic QC by any reputable post house. And it looks like digital slop.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by natebc »

abc42 wrote: post #550
natebc wrote: post #435

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... because of the evidence all around us? But really, nobody said "only" it's just that the gems are drowning alongside us in a sea of bullshit and the tide is still on the way up I'm afraid.

Where exactly do you think this evidence is? Don't tell me you're basing this on demos like the one in the article?

No. Not the demos in this article.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by kamma4434 »

Jtarii wrote: post #357
kamma4434 wrote: post #246

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> What makes art meaningful and impactful isn’t whether it looks good or cool. It’s the story of the artist, the context of the art itself, the hard work and struggle involved, the meaning represented by a human creating something very specific to their own personal context and taste. Or a mix of any of that. I beg to disagree: meaningful art is where something speaks of its own. If something needs a PR firm to expla…

So if this photo was generated by an LLM it would have exactly the same emotional valence to you? https://www.artic.edu/artworks/5817/tereska-a-child-in-a-res...

How do I know it’s not?

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by hmry »

59percentmore wrote: post #567
59percentmore wrote: post #547

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So, would you agree that working creatively around the Disney-fied locking-down of those tools in order to produce something "provocative, uncomfortable, taboo, explicit, subversive, or challenging of norms" would at least begin to approach being a process that involved at least a semblance of artistic merit? Because I can assure you that much of what I've gen'd checks those boxes (unless Sorry To Bother You's third-…

Note that he simply downvoted me. I refuse to believe that it's because equisapiens no longer shock.

FYI it's not possible to downvote replies to your own comment

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Post by 59percentmore »

hmry wrote: post #578
59percentmore wrote: post #567

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Note that he simply downvoted me. I refuse to believe that it's because equisapiens no longer shock.

FYI it's not possible to downvote replies to your own comment

"He" being "ryandrake".

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by therein »

m463 wrote: post #91
therein wrote: post #23

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Coincidence that both songs reference Michelle Pfeiffer or was that free connotation at work?

... This hit, that ice cold Michelle Pfeiffer, that white gold This one for them hood girls ... - https://genius.com/Mark-ronson-uptown-funk-lyrics

Probably nobody will see this as I replied much later but apparently Michelle Pfeiffer and other middle aged singers are a codename for cocaine.

So "white gold" makes a lot of sense now.

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