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Americans are angry about data centers. Politicians are feeling the pressure

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Re: Americans are angry about data centers. Politicians are feeling the pressure

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I think there's room for win-win solutions here; the cost of placating the locals is a rounding error compared to the cost of these data centers. 1. Local governments can require that if the data center peak load is 1.0GW, they must provision transmission and generation capacity for the local region of 1.2GW; the extra power can be given to the neighbors at substantial discount. 2. Construct a public swimming complex…

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Re: Americans are angry about data centers. Politicians are feeling the pressure

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All the data centers do is:

1. use all the water

2. Increase electric costs but a large amount

3. Increase noise in the neighborhood

If the above was false, no one would care. Plus these data centers provides almost no jobs, so there is no benefit to the community. Granted there is more tax revenue, but the people paying taxes do not see their tax burden go down.

So the wonder why ??

Re: Americans are angry about data centers. Politicians are feeling the pressure

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I think there's room for win-win solutions here; the cost of placating the locals is a rounding error compared to the cost of these data centers. 1. Local governments can require that if the data center peak load is 1.0GW, they must provision transmission and generation capacity for the local region of 1.2GW; the extra power can be given to the neighbors at substantial discount. 2. Construct a public swimming complex…

All of these options require “extra” money to be spent, which even if it logically makes sense, will not happen when it’s shown companies can buy local politicians and continue anyway

Re: Americans are angry about data centers. Politicians are feeling the pressure

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> It's incredible how much traction the completely fabricated anti-data center propaganda has gotten

Agreed - here in Australia one of the big TV networks was heavily advertising a story last week about the big bad data centres coming to suburbia. You can be critical of Australia's local governments all you want, but at least in the big cities, no one is going without water or power for any appreciable amount of time due to data centres or anything else.

Re: Americans are angry about data centers. Politicians are feeling the pressure

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post #11

I think there's room for win-win solutions here; the cost of placating the locals is a rounding error compared to the cost of these data centers. 1. Local governments can require that if the data center peak load is 1.0GW, they must provision transmission and generation capacity for the local region of 1.2GW; the extra power can be given to the neighbors at substantial discount. 2. Construct a public swimming complex…

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Spoken like someone that will not have a data center built near them at their expense in the near future

Re: Americans are angry about data centers. Politicians are feeling the pressure

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Similar to the trajectory of nuclear power which lost public approval for reasons that are not entirely rational.

I have been half wondering if it gets bad enough will people be willing to support nuclear power again.

Re: Americans are angry about data centers. Politicians are feeling the pressure

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post #12

All the data centers do is: 1. use all the water 2. Increase electric costs but a large amount 3. Increase noise in the neighborhood If the above was false, no one would care. Plus these data centers provides almost no jobs, so there is no benefit to the community. Granted there is more tax revenue, but the people paying taxes do not see their tax burden go down. So the wonder why ??

All of the above are false, except for 3 which has actually happened in a few cases, though is definitely the outlier as I have been near data centers and couldn't hear a thing. And they provide a lot more jobs than the 0 jobs that were provided by the undeveloped land they are built on.

Re: Americans are angry about data centers. Politicians are feeling the pressure

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Who cares about pressure when you can now receive enough compensation to never worry about getting re-elected ever again. You can even fuck off to some safe haven country to live the rest of your life in peace and comfort.

What I see today public will reelect anyway. So no worries about that either.

Re: Americans are angry about data centers. Politicians are feeling the pressure

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post #11

I think there's room for win-win solutions here; the cost of placating the locals is a rounding error compared to the cost of these data centers. 1. Local governments can require that if the data center peak load is 1.0GW, they must provision transmission and generation capacity for the local region of 1.2GW; the extra power can be given to the neighbors at substantial discount. 2. Construct a public swimming complex…

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Re: Americans are angry about data centers. Politicians are feeling the pressure

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post #11

I think there's room for win-win solutions here; the cost of placating the locals is a rounding error compared to the cost of these data centers. 1. Local governments can require that if the data center peak load is 1.0GW, they must provision transmission and generation capacity for the local region of 1.2GW; the extra power can be given to the neighbors at substantial discount. 2. Construct a public swimming complex…

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The noise issue is not irrational. But, they should establish objective criteria for noise (at various distances, frequencies and frequency variation)

Issues around the cost of infrastructure upgrades being spread over all rate payers are not universal, and can be corrected.

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