Eric Schmidt tried to convert Google to Java

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Post by mashally » Sun, Jul 19, 2026, 8:09 PM UTC

Eric Schmidt tried to convert Google to Java
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Re: Eric Schmidt tried to convert Google to Java

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Post by mashally » Sun, Jul 19, 2026, 8:09 PM UTC

I learned that following your heart and being in love with a specific programming language aren't what make you a software engineer or even a CEO.

Re: Eric Schmidt tried to convert Google to Java

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Post by panny » Sun, Jul 19, 2026, 9:25 PM UTC

mashally wrote: post #2

I learned that following your heart and being in love with a specific programming language aren't what make you a software engineer or even a CEO.

I've learned people who hate Java are basically racists who hate Indians.

And all you have to do to find them is say that and wait for people who say "No! Java is bad because..."

Re: Eric Schmidt tried to convert Google to Java

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Post by simianwords » Sun, Jul 19, 2026, 9:35 PM UTC

This is a disagreement on hiring Java specialists vs generalists and not about using Java in Google.

Re: Eric Schmidt tried to convert Google to Java

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Post by midnightbobarun » Sun, Jul 19, 2026, 9:49 PM UTC

Didn't he get his way in the end? Java becoming the programming language of choice for Android happened when he was CEO.

Re: Eric Schmidt tried to convert Google to Java

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Post by nullpoint420 » Sun, Jul 19, 2026, 10:08 PM UTC

panny wrote: post #3

mashally wrote: post #2

I learned that following your heart and being in love with a specific programming language aren't what make you a software engineer or even a CEO.

I've learned people who hate Java are basically racists who hate Indians. And all you have to do to find them is say that and wait for people who say "No! Java is bad because..."

Wow is this true? Hopefully I don’t come across this way. I’m a huge Kotlin fan but strongly dislike Java for its verbosity.

Is hating on Java really a dog whistle like you say?

Re: Eric Schmidt tried to convert Google to Java

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Post by malux85 » Sun, Jul 19, 2026, 10:19 PM UTC

midnightbobarun wrote: post #5

Didn't he get his way in the end? Java becoming the programming language of choice for Android happened when he was CEO.

Android was acquired, and it was java from the start in the source company.

Re: Eric Schmidt tried to convert Google to Java

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Post by vsgherzi » Mon, Jul 20, 2026, 12:44 AM UTC

panny wrote: post #3

mashally wrote: post #2

I learned that following your heart and being in love with a specific programming language aren't what make you a software engineer or even a CEO.

I've learned people who hate Java are basically racists who hate Indians. And all you have to do to find them is say that and wait for people who say "No! Java is bad because..."

Wow … that’s quite the comment. I can’t say I’ve made this connection. Could you expand on this more?

My gripes with Java are because I feel it’s

1. A poor language to introduce students to computer science

2. Contains a poor api for date and time

3. Encourages overly verbose oop design

4. Has an infuriating garbage collector that’s often extremely hard to debug. Most advice just tells me to use a different garbage collector.

5. Not a fan of the thread story.

6. Large complex libraries like spring often dominate the language.

7. License issues… thanks oracle…

8. Often large memory footprints

If you’re hating a language because of a group on people or vice versa perhaps you should look inwards.