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REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Today it only exists in the imagination of the company CEO and a few trusted others, none of whom have figured out how to hire someone with automobile CAD experience to produce a mock-up that might increase interest for their proposed product.

People are so worked up online in places like Reddit and YouTube comments about how there aren't small trucks anymore. It feels almost like a strange mania. So it makes sense that someone like this would come along and capitalize on that (and probably never produce anything). People will throw $25 at a company without intention to actually purchase the truck, just because they feel some weird memetic vibe to support…

There is a lot of truth here. Especially the part about capitalizing on the interest without ever producing a vehicle. This is something that I have considered when looking at Slate, Rivian, and other interesting vehicle concepts. Those two did end up with production vehicles. Others were a lot more vaporware.

It feels great and sad at the same time that automakers have lost touch with their customers and no longer produce vehicles that the average consumer would buy and use.

Ford, with the Bronco, took years to commit to resurrecting the nameplate. In the process, they gathered so much critical information from Bronco drivers and other 4WD enthusiasts that they were able to condense their configurations to match the options that buyers were requesting and to offer factory installs of and warranties for components that buyers usually had to buy from aftermarket sources. They did everything right and even though there are hiccups with the vehicles, some due to pandemic parts shortages, others due to similar quality issues, they have a bonafide hit. It is hard to go anywhere around me in NTexas without seeing multiple Broncos and Bronco Sports.

If this guy at REO is smart and committed to the process he will scour forums for configuration information for his vehicles so that he can select components that buyers prefer. He can work on styling once he hires someone with CAD experience.

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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I maintain that a Renault Kangoo is the best car format ever.

Yes. We still see an insane amount of Citroen C15 here in south of Spain.

Spanish Citroen C15 memes are my type of humour

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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A Honda minivan can fit 4x8 sheets of plywood in the dry, under-roof, with the doors closed. Other times, it can seat 8.

Unfortunately, to Americans, that really doesn't matter. Even if they're not as fit for purpose, they prefer pickup trucks to minivans. It's a cultural thing. (I realize you're probably being responsive to the word "need" - it's more what they claim they need than actually need. They could use a Japanese kei truck.)

>They could use a Japanese kei truck.

I was hearing elsenet from someone who was planning to buy a Japanese kei truck until he borrowed one. Apparently with more than about 300 lb in the bed they feel dangerous to drive- combination of instability and poor braking performance.

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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I'm not up on the Maverick, but the comparison chart for the Slate EV feels pretty misleading: - the Slate's range is now 205 miles across the board, not 150/240 - both the REO and Slate start as 2-door 2-seaters with pricier models adding capacity, but the chart boasts the REO seats "up to 6" while the Slate seats "2 (5 costs extra)" - for repair costs, the REO just says "mechanical - affordable" (?) while labeling…

If you buy the common reliable gas engines, and stick to timing chains, you really don't have to do much. Our 4runner has 260k miles and hasn't ever had anything done but engine oil, trans oil, and differential oil. Trans and diff oil will still be done on electric cars. I have a 300k Ford F250 gas that also hasnt had anything done basically. And while for trucks the electric vs gas is huge, my Chevy Volt costs per m…

Anecdotal evidence notwhithstanding, EVs have much lower long-term maintenance costs. See eg,

https://www.energy.gov/cmei/vehicles/articles/fotw-1190-june...

https://advocacy.consumerreports.org/press_release/electric-...

On electricity costs, California is an outlier---most people in the US pay less than half that $0.46/kwh, more like $0.15-0.20/kwh.

https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.ph...

So for most people in the US, an EV will cost half what an ICE vehicle costs to operate.

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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I'm not up on the Maverick, but the comparison chart for the Slate EV feels pretty misleading: - the Slate's range is now 205 miles across the board, not 150/240 - both the REO and Slate start as 2-door 2-seaters with pricier models adding capacity, but the chart boasts the REO seats "up to 6" while the Slate seats "2 (5 costs extra)" - for repair costs, the REO just says "mechanical - affordable" (?) while labeling…

If you buy the common reliable gas engines, and stick to timing chains, you really don't have to do much. Our 4runner has 260k miles and hasn't ever had anything done but engine oil, trans oil, and differential oil. Trans and diff oil will still be done on electric cars. I have a 300k Ford F250 gas that also hasnt had anything done basically. And while for trucks the electric vs gas is huge, my Chevy Volt costs per m…

> And while for trucks the electric vs gas is huge, my Chevy Volt costs per mile about the same to operate on gas vs electric, because electricity is $0.46 a kwh in my California region

For you.

Here in Canada gas is 4.90 USD /gal. (Diesel is 5.45)

Electricity is 0.093 USD / kWh. And it’s all from hydro.

Literally every tradesman in town has an F150 lightning because for fuel alone it’s about 1/4 the cost of any gas or diesel pickup. No oil changes just increase the savings.

I’m in a very snowy mountain town and EVs are booming. It will go insane when BYD etc are here any day.

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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$25 is too low. $25 feels like "no one will go after the guy if the money just disappears".

Slate was $50.

Slate also had 3 years of skunkworks behind the scenes by Re:Build Manufacturing as "Project Re:Car" with millions being thrown behind it by Bezos and friends.

https://rebuildmanufacturing.com/work/slate/

The fact these guys are still trying to find manufacturing partners and suppliers is killing me when Slate's got Tier-1s (Vitro) already lined up cranking out windshields in Mexico for them (among the rest of the f*cking owl that is the truck coming together here in the US ;) )

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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I think the more important reasons are to prevent the groceries from sliding around in the bed and to protect them from the sun and precipitation.

Dang, if only someone made an everyday car with a soft weather proof enclosed cargo area, possibly you could have the tailgate open up and away as well so it's not in the way. I would think Americans would love to have something more practical than a work vehicle

Sure, I could buy a dedicated more efficient car for the rare days when there is zero risk of rain and I don't need to haul anything larger.

After more than 1cm of rain, the last 500m of the steep dirt road up to my off-grid house in the mountains is completely impassable without 4wd. And I, or my family-in-law, regularly haul large trees, construction equipment, several 100kg of fertilizer, etc. in the truck bed.

Buying a single vehicle, a pre-owned 4wd Ford Ranger made the most economic sense.

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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This flimsy website and company is banking on your excitement and prayers.

If the product arrives at the quoted price, I could give a shit if their website was done in ActiveX controls for IE6.

Delivering on that is what I’m doubting, and the website isn’t helping. They have to revive some tech that is now outmoded, and that’s not a small problem. But hey, if they pull it off, great.

The economics of the industry are built around the preferences of consumers. The lower end doesn’t look like this, which isn’t encouraging, but maybe there’s room for it.

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