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Re: HMD Touch 4G

#31

Without WhatsApp support it will not go far.

> Without WhatsApp support it will not go far.

Speaking of which, it is bizarre how the tables have turned. Whatsapp used to support everything under the sun... But now it is all Android and iPhone

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#34

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4G is currently the dominant mobile data network with the best coverage.

Yeah in your dreams maybe. I'm often seeing zero bars, asking others if they have any signal only to have them show me a full 5G signal. New towers aren't backwards compatible, and the bandwidth has been largely reduced.

I'm not entirely sure why you're arguing with me about this. 4G currently has much better coverage than 5G; that's just a fact. I'm sure "4G barely works anymore" is true for you, but you don't represent the world, much less India, where this phone is sold.

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah in your dreams maybe. I'm often seeing zero bars, asking others if they have any signal only to have them show me a full 5G signal. New towers aren't backwards compatible, and the bandwidth has been largely reduced.

> New towers aren't backwards compatible, and the bandwidth has been largely reduced. Yup. In tech-speak there is 5G NSA (Non-Standalone Architecture) and 5G SA (Standalone Architecture). 5G NSA is a kludge, it is 5G radios operating on a legacy 4G core. Inherently backwards compatible. 5G SA is 5G radios on 5G core. Clearly not backwards compatible. 5G SA is the preferred route for good reason: 1. It delivers reduce…

NSA can be rolled out with almost nothing more than a firmware update. For any existing carrier network, it was the obvious place to start 5G rollout.

If you're building new towers, things change, obviously. That said, a lot of industrial/IoT hardware still requires 4G so it's not entirely unreasonable to deploy 4G in new coverage areas.

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#37

This is an odd little device. It seems you can only call other express chat users? it's reminiscent of cellphone systems from the old old days like Nextel walkie talkies. Also I see its available in India only and given the feature restrictions perhaps it's meant as an ultra low end device ? If HMD came out with something that was optimized to the nth degree for whatsapp calls, that might be interesting, but even the…

There looks to be an express chat app for iPhone and Android as well.

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah in your dreams maybe. I'm often seeing zero bars, asking others if they have any signal only to have them show me a full 5G signal. New towers aren't backwards compatible, and the bandwidth has been largely reduced.

> New towers aren't backwards compatible, and the bandwidth has been largely reduced. Yup. In tech-speak there is 5G NSA (Non-Standalone Architecture) and 5G SA (Standalone Architecture). 5G NSA is a kludge, it is 5G radios operating on a legacy 4G core. Inherently backwards compatible. 5G SA is 5G radios on 5G core. Clearly not backwards compatible. 5G SA is the preferred route for good reason: 1. It delivers reduce…

And it also planned-obsoletes 4G only devices, a big win for the operators that can then sell new 5G capable ones. Such a racket I swear. Can't wait to go through this shit again for 6G in about 5 years, like we did for 3G.

Re: HMD Touch 4G

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Did you mix up 4G with 3G/2G?

> Did you mix up 4G with 3G/2G? Most operators have switched off both 3G and 2G by now.

This is why I'm asking, because noone is shutting down 4G anywhere. And 5G actually has LESS range than 4G.
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