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I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by andros »

j45 wrote: post #44
TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #26

If IndieWeb wants content, burying it under a ton of tech soup is the exact opposite of what they claim they want. How do the developers not realise that this set of protocols is completely unworkable for 90% of users? Please stop developing systems where the engineering is front and centre. If you want to put content UX first, you need to do exactly that, with a one-click solution that gets users up and running inst…

Indieweb is sometimes tied to self-hosting to give people configurabilty and flexibilty. It does keep indieweb for the few and not the many.

Rather than self-hosting, IndieWeb advocate for managing hosting; like GitHub Pages or similar.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by justsad »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #40

The Internet is already independent - warez and torrents amd smuggling sites and groups prove this Anyone can go right now to a DNS registry and set up a url with tld and as many redirects as needed and host locally or remote servers.

Replace one with another. Strange, isn’t it?

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by andros »

jdw64 wrote: post #49

I also have my own personal homepage [1]. The content isn't that great, but I do have some curated content on there. What kind of topics and people are usually involved in the IndieWeb community? I'm thinking about joining, but I'm still debating it. [1] https://www.makonea.com/en-US

I like your website design! Next.js, React, TailwindCSS in Vercel? Is this your design? It's very nice.

They have monthly and annual events; perhaps you can discover them for yourself! However, I recommend that you first understand and apply some of their philosophy!

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

BoingBoomTschak wrote: post #39
superkuh wrote: post #3

Although not explicitly part of the indieweb protocols, RSS and Atom feeds are important too.

They're not just "important", a blog without RSS/Atom feed is like a car without wheels.

I’ve never had an rss on any blog/site I’ve ever hosted and never felt like I’m missing anything

What is the advantage to me of maintaining an rss?

Is there some giant rss feed following community I’m missing?

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by mock-possum »

andros wrote: post #30
TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #26

If IndieWeb wants content, burying it under a ton of tech soup is the exact opposite of what they claim they want. How do the developers not realise that this set of protocols is completely unworkable for 90% of users? Please stop developing systems where the engineering is front and centre. If you want to put content UX first, you need to do exactly that, with a one-click solution that gets users up and running inst…

Its initial 7 steps: having your domain, managing your site, creating your pages... are quite accessible. There is some unavoidable complexity, such as configuring DNS. However, with interest and AI, there are no real limitations.

Of course https://xkcd.com/2501/

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by andros »

exiguus wrote: post #50

IndieWeb is a form of social media. People have a certain image of themselves, and the internet helps them live up to it. Whether we're writing comments on HN, posting toots on Mastodon, uploading videos to TikTok, or writing a post on our own blog, there’s a lot of self-expression involved. However, for a lot of people, platforms like TikTok are more appealing than IndieWeb, but for some, it's fun to set up an OpenB…

You remind me of the article "Nobody Cares About Quality Anymore" by Shawn Seymour where convenience is always valued. Or where people use information as a tool, without any desire or motivation to preserve it.

Thank you for your comment! It motivates me a lot.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by andros »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #54
BoingBoomTschak wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not just "important", a blog without RSS/Atom feed is like a car without wheels.

I’ve never had an rss on any blog/site I’ve ever hosted and never felt like I’m missing anything What is the advantage to me of maintaining an rss? Is there some giant rss feed following community I’m missing?

Currently, the RSS feed is what's driving the most traffic to my blog.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by sjs382 »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #54
BoingBoomTschak wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not just "important", a blog without RSS/Atom feed is like a car without wheels.

I’ve never had an rss on any blog/site I’ve ever hosted and never felt like I’m missing anything What is the advantage to me of maintaining an rss? Is there some giant rss feed following community I’m missing?

Is there some giant rss feed following community I’m missing?

Yes

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by 5701652400 »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #26

If IndieWeb wants content, burying it under a ton of tech soup is the exact opposite of what they claim they want. How do the developers not realise that this set of protocols is completely unworkable for 90% of users? Please stop developing systems where the engineering is front and centre. If you want to put content UX first, you need to do exactly that, with a one-click solution that gets users up and running inst…

+1. unless I see IndieWeb in AppStore and real volume of real people use it, it is all tech people toy hobbies

(which seems diametrically opposite of IndieWeb: no HTML - iOS/Android is the king, no browsers, no desktop, no terminal, no GitHub, gated App Stores, rich media, videos is the king)

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by 5701652400 »

4ndrewl wrote: post #47
andros wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its initial 7 steps: having your domain, managing your site, creating your pages... are quite accessible. There is some unavoidable complexity, such as configuring DNS. However, with interest and AI, there are no real limitations.

Peak HN comment. Barely anyone knows what a "domain" is, no-one knows what DNS is. Very few people would even know what questions to ask AI.

I know people in tech consulting advising large finance enterprises for 3+ years who barely know what DNS is.
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