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What's the deal with all the random weekly quota resets for agents lately?

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Re: What's the deal with all the random weekly quota resets for agents lately?

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>The desire to "not waste money" and "get back to even" seems like a huge part of what motivates gamblers to keep gambling. As someone who had family members go through gambling addiction this is the primary mechanism behind it. Addicts don't see it as "cool fun dopamine kicks" but instead find it the only way they can get back to normal/where they are supposed to be

That seems like an incomplete explanation. Logically, gambling is like going to the movies. You expect to pay x currency for y value of entertainment. If y falls short of expectations you might feel like you wasted your money, but who becomes addicted to going to the movies to try to get even? There is probably someone who has, but I’ve never heard of it and it doesn’t seem to be common; not like gambling addictions.…

> Logically, gambling is like going to the movies. You expect to pay x currency for y value of entertainment.

I don't think gambling is at all like paying a set price for a ticket and having a pretty good idea of how long the entertainment will last. If "gambling" means making a series of short-term bets for entertainment value, you don't have any clear idea how long you'll be entertained for or how much it will cost.

People will show up at a casino with let's say, $200 and a debit card, and expect that they'll be able to spend $50, be entertained for 2 hours, and then just leave… while secretly hoping that they'll actually leave with more than they came with.

Then they burn through their $50 in half an hour, and dip into their remaining stash in order to keep playing. OR they triple their money in half an hour and feel such a rush that they want to keep playing with more money. Then, repeat repeat repeat.

Re: What's the deal with all the random weekly quota resets for agents lately?

#72
Addiction being enabled is a big thing but AI stocks are dropping and the companies are getting nervous people will stop investing or -- worse for them and better for the planet -- start selling it all off.

Combined with the fact that China's also catching up with its open source AI (no i dont want to debate whether or not it actually is or if china is 'safe'; particularly not with anyone from the USA as i am canadian) and also everyone protesting against the giant data centres AND the UK giving up on digital IDs?

yeah. they're trying to get people hooked again.

Re: What's the deal with all the random weekly quota resets for agents lately?

#73

They're giving everyone their next hit. What I read on social media about people and these resets gives off literal worst kind of addiction vibes. I've literally seen people talking about "Oh I had an existential crisis without Fable/GPT-5.6" These people legitimately need help, or alternatively a social life. Maybe its different on my end because I just use a sub outside of work for fun stuff. At work its not my mon…

I have a $20 Claude sub, and the closest I've come to hitting a limit was when I was using it to fight back against some scammers spreading a stealer on discord. I was having Claude decode their webhook strings, and the first time I blew them up with pings to get a job, then just started deleting the hooks from under them when they published new versions.

But for standard productivity, I've never come remotely close to hitting a limit.

Re: What's the deal with all the random weekly quota resets for agents lately?

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They're giving everyone their next hit. What I read on social media about people and these resets gives off literal worst kind of addiction vibes. I've literally seen people talking about "Oh I had an existential crisis without Fable/GPT-5.6" These people legitimately need help, or alternatively a social life. Maybe its different on my end because I just use a sub outside of work for fun stuff. At work its not my mon…

I have a $20 Claude sub, and the closest I've come to hitting a limit was when I was using it to fight back against some scammers spreading a stealer on discord. I was having Claude decode their webhook strings, and the first time I blew them up with pings to get a job, then just started deleting the hooks from under them when they published new versions. But for standard productivity, I've never come remotely close…

Same here, and - while not trying to troll - the people I know who loudly proclaim how they keep hitting their limits are the ones who also seem to be blindly trying things through trial and error. A lot of wheel spinning, etc.

Re: What's the deal with all the random weekly quota resets for agents lately?

#76

Addiction being enabled is a big thing but AI stocks are dropping and the companies are getting nervous people will stop investing or -- worse for them and better for the planet -- start selling it all off. Combined with the fact that China's also catching up with its open source AI (no i dont want to debate whether or not it actually is or if china is 'safe'; particularly not with anyone from the USA as i am canadia…

The thing you are skipping over there is not whether China is safe, but whether open weights are open source.

Re: What's the deal with all the random weekly quota resets for agents lately?

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That seems like an incomplete explanation. Logically, gambling is like going to the movies. You expect to pay x currency for y value of entertainment. If y falls short of expectations you might feel like you wasted your money, but who becomes addicted to going to the movies to try to get even? There is probably someone who has, but I’ve never heard of it and it doesn’t seem to be common; not like gambling addictions.…

> Logically, gambling is like going to the movies. You expect to pay x currency for y value of entertainment. I don't think gambling is at all like paying a set price for a ticket and having a pretty good idea of how long the entertainment will last. If "gambling" means making a series of short-term bets for entertainment value, you don't have any clear idea how long you'll be entertained for or how much it will cost…

> I don't think gambling is at all like paying a set price for a ticket and having a pretty good idea of how long the entertainment will last.

Generally you can gain a pretty good understanding of how long the entertainment will last. Maybe not down to the millisecond, but you know a spin on the one arm bandit won't take hours. It will give on the order of seconds. Your willingness to give up x is contingent on the perceived entertainment value of those seconds. If you choose to play again, that is an independent event — like deciding to watch a second movie while you are already at the theatre.

> while secretly hoping that they'll actually leave with more than they came with.

Yes, this may be the undefined variable. The dopamine hit of believing you can come home better than you started, with little tastes of the possibility, coupled with loss aversion when it isn't being realized. This is what earlier comments seem to be speaking about, so perhaps, despite your insistence, a consensus was already reached.

Re: What's the deal with all the random weekly quota resets for agents lately?

#78
I am also trying to resist all those remote control, control from your phone, or run your agents from anywhere kind of "promotions". I feel like they are trying to make us addicted to AI agents. I set my work up before I go home in the evening and no more agent-checking until next morning.

Re: What's the deal with all the random weekly quota resets for agents lately?

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post #76

Addiction being enabled is a big thing but AI stocks are dropping and the companies are getting nervous people will stop investing or -- worse for them and better for the planet -- start selling it all off. Combined with the fact that China's also catching up with its open source AI (no i dont want to debate whether or not it actually is or if china is 'safe'; particularly not with anyone from the USA as i am canadia…

The thing you are skipping over there is not whether China is safe, but whether open weights are open source.

I'm not skipping over anything because I didn't think to mention it my dude, gal and/or pal.

Re: What's the deal with all the random weekly quota resets for agents lately?

#80
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Respectfully, a lot of what you're saying in this thread sounds a lot like the lies that gamblers tell themselves. Saying this as someone with a strong tendency towards addictions. Some of these things are only possible to really see in hindsight. Yes, you've been working on these things for a while, but these systems are notably different in their capacity and strings they pull on us. Be well, please.

Yesterday (unrelated to quotamaxxing described in the article), I made an Apple TV macOS menu bar remote app: https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:oxaerni... Every single prompt worked without issue, and it got most of the way on the first try with the initial prompt (+ a couple visibility bugs due to the agent not having Computer Vision to see said menu bar app) such as: > Create a SwiftUI menu bar a…

You're, almost like clockwork, responding to the wrong thing. Not contesting what's been made or what hasn't or what's possible or what's not. That's not the issue I'm bringing up.

Just -- do well for yourself. Deflection aint it.

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