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Valve say there's no end in sight to the memory crisis, prices going to increase

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Re: Valve say there's no end in sight to the memory crisis, prices going to increase

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Given their choice not to hedge memory prices early for the steam machine, I am not sure they have a great track record when it comes to predicting which way the prices will be going.

The current approach from manufacturers is „you accept the price or we never talk with you again“. It’s cartel behavior, there is no room for negotiation

They should have accepted the November 2025 prices - 50% higher than the mid 2025 price but half the prices they paid.

Re: Valve say there's no end in sight to the memory crisis, prices going to increase

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Besides the AI shortage, Moore’s Law has ended which means in order to get faster chips, you have to use bigger dies, fancier packaging, more cooling, more power. This increases costs. A PS6 really doesn’t increase much over the PS5 even without the AI shortage. You’re probably getting doubled the performance at best, which barely makes a noticeable difference in gaming when PS1 to PS2 had 180x better GPU. I think th…

The reality is more along the lines of traditional rendering with special ML models inferring and splicing in generated frames. Framegen is already in most modern games and Nvidia has made it a driver level option for many unsupported ones. In case you haven’t used it — it is black magic. Studios will have almost no motivation to optimize if framegen can be perfected, and it’s not far.

Hopefully Nvidia doesn't try to bundle a bunch of slop to completely change faces of characters with AI into future framegen updates (claiming that it's in control of the developers but then not even checking with the devs of the game they put into the trailer for it) like they did last time...

https://www.techradar.com/computing/gpu/nvidias-ceo-goes-ful...

Re: Valve say there's no end in sight to the memory crisis, prices going to increase

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Given their choice not to hedge memory prices early for the steam machine, I am not sure they have a great track record when it comes to predicting which way the prices will be going.

The current approach from manufacturers is „you accept the price or we never talk with you again“. It’s cartel behavior, there is no room for negotiation

Cartel behavior? You mean supply and demand?

Re: Valve say there's no end in sight to the memory crisis, prices going to increase

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For USA, indeed there is no end in sight to the memory crisis, as long as its politicians work for companies like Micron, which obtains huge profits from the inflated memory prices. A few days ago, the representatives John Moolenaar (R-MI) and George Whitesides (D-CA) have urged the Trump administration to prevent the purchase by US companies of DRAM and flash memory made by the Chinese manufacturers, which are the o…

What is this fever dream? Is the us government even behind the hemorrhoids?

Re: Valve say there's no end in sight to the memory crisis, prices going to increase

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The PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series consoles launched in Fall of 2020. That’s almost 6 years ago. The PlayStation 6 and the new Xbox should be launching soon. If not this fall then perhaps next fall when it will be 7 years from the launch of the current generation. How will the memory crisis impact all of this? Also I find it kind of ironic. In the 2010’s PC gamers would go online all the time and sneer about how conso…

This gotta be least memorable generation of all time. Nothing worth noting released on those consoles.

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For USA, indeed there is no end in sight to the memory crisis, as long as its politicians work for companies like Micron, which obtains huge profits from the inflated memory prices. A few days ago, the representatives John Moolenaar (R-MI) and George Whitesides (D-CA) have urged the Trump administration to prevent the purchase by US companies of DRAM and flash memory made by the Chinese manufacturers, which are the o…

There will come a point were countries are forced to choose between China and the US. The choice may shock some Americans lol.

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For USA, indeed there is no end in sight to the memory crisis, as long as its politicians work for companies like Micron, which obtains huge profits from the inflated memory prices. A few days ago, the representatives John Moolenaar (R-MI) and George Whitesides (D-CA) have urged the Trump administration to prevent the purchase by US companies of DRAM and flash memory made by the Chinese manufacturers, which are the o…

There will come a point were countries are forced to choose between China and the US. The choice may shock some Americans lol.

Even the US picks China for most of their goods.
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