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Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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You are clearly not the target audience. Perhaps you can recognize that other more recent internet frequenters might appreciate the knowledge.

To me this "knowledge" seems to be a crutch. Real knowledge would show how to do it on their own as thousands of us have done for decades and still do today.

One step at a time, we don't force people to build their own CPU out of transistors.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Personally I have used GitHub pages and cloudflare pages for hosting static sites and have been very happy with them considering the zero cost involved. I don't think there is much difference between paying nearlyfreespeech (which I have done in the past) Vs using GitHub or cloudflare - you are still reliant on a third party for actual hosting. I don't really see any value in self-hosting myself - apart from nerdy sa…

I do the same for my blog [1]

[1] https://gigatexal.blog

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Personally I have used GitHub pages and cloudflare pages for hosting static sites and have been very happy with them considering the zero cost involved. I don't think there is much difference between paying nearlyfreespeech (which I have done in the past) Vs using GitHub or cloudflare - you are still reliant on a third party for actual hosting. I don't really see any value in self-hosting myself - apart from nerdy sa…

When you pay for something, you stop being the product and become the customer instead. That's a big deal .

Not really, not for 1¢/day. Most massive platforms that I use for free (Google Workspace, Cloudflare Pages, even Oracle Cloud always free tier) have outlived many low cost solutions I tried.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Nearlyfreespeech is a great service though not a 100% independent as your still relying on them. I think the closest you can get to 100% independent without running your own internet infrastructure is either port forwarding from your home (if allowed) or hosting a website through TOR which isn't too hard. You just have to download the browser and edit a config file (torrc) with the port you want on the network. Not i…

> You could even go to your domain provider and have one of your domains redirect to your .onion address so people don't need to memorize it. Apparently [1] there are also ways that Tor Browser supports, for directing visitors to the onion address via the “normal” internet: - Onion-Location > The Onion-Location method was introduced on Tor Browser 9.5 as a way for service operators announce their Onion Services in th…

You can see it in action by visiting e.g. https://www.qubes-os.org/ in tor browser

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

#165

Personally I have used GitHub pages and cloudflare pages for hosting static sites and have been very happy with them considering the zero cost involved. I don't think there is much difference between paying nearlyfreespeech (which I have done in the past) Vs using GitHub or cloudflare - you are still reliant on a third party for actual hosting. I don't really see any value in self-hosting myself - apart from nerdy sa…

When you pay for something, you stop being the product and become the customer instead. That's a big deal .

It used to be the case in the past, perhaps, but not now.

Now you just get fscked twice.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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So never bother with anything, am I right? Anything could be bad. Why eat the burger instead of the cyanide pill when there could be cyanide in the burger?

and almost every paid service too. Paid or unpaid is not a useful characteristic for determining if something will sell my data.

Clearly nobody thinks “paid = never selling data” and I have a hard time believing you actually think their argument is that simple and singular.

If something is paid + open source then you have a good starting point incentive wise for the provider but also if they mess with things under the hood someone will inevitably call it out and you can act accordingly. You also now have more options - you can fork it yourself, someone else may fork it and you can jump ship, etc.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

#167

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To me this "knowledge" seems to be a crutch. Real knowledge would show how to do it on their own as thousands of us have done for decades and still do today.

One step at a time, we don't force people to build their own CPU out of transistors.

That is a really bad, far too fine grained example.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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There's no such thing as a TLD that's uncontrollable by any entity. How would you imagine such a thing working? Whatever you imagine: how does it stand up to me editing the hosts file, or the browser's source code?

>There's no such thing as a TLD that's uncontrollable by any entity. Think .crypto but without the ability to upgrade the smart contract to censor domains. The registry is spread out across a whole decentralized network of computers of which has another decentralized network of computers that proxy requests exists. >how does it stand up to me editing the hosts file, or the browser's source code? No one can force you…

What does "the user is free to still resolve it if they want" mean in a world where people do not control, or even understand, the software running on their computers? (Because I can tell you, I certainly don't.) This abstraction is a nice idea, but it's unrealistic as part of a serious threat model. Does Joe Q. Public know about the hosts file, or how the Windows network stack selectively overrides its entries, or how some of the Linux userspace uses systemd-resolved, or the things that I don't even know to write here? I'M not the one resolving domains: the software running on MY computer is.

And even if I'm a super genius who's written my own full-stack operating system on my souped-up speccy, I'm still bound by the laws of information theory. If you need information that you don't have, you're necessarily requesting it from a source (here, a computer) external to you (here, outside your control). A complicated network protocol doesn't make that fact go away, and doesn't allow you to ignore it. (It might mitigate various censorship or spoofing approaches, but you only know that if you check: the abstraction won't save you merely by virtue of being an abstraction.)

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Kind of funny that this is like some strange new concept... Having a web server and putting your stuff on it.

Considering many people doesn't know what a file is, keeping the spirit alive is important, I think.

> Considering many people doesn't know what a file is, keeping the spirit alive is important, I think.

Files aren’t sacred. It’s actually troubling that many technical people never consider alternatives. Most of the worlds data today is probably not stored in filesystems, rather in databases and object stores that use custom storage backends.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Considering many people doesn't know what a file is, keeping the spirit alive is important, I think.

> Considering many people doesn't know what a file is, keeping the spirit alive is important, I think. Files aren’t sacred. It’s actually troubling that many technical people never consider alternatives. Most of the worlds data today is probably not stored in filesystems, rather in databases and object stores that use custom storage backends.

After the nth time of my Android Chrome app silently corrupting and auto-deleting my browsing history (all of it; it's not a bug, it's the intended behavior!), would love to hear about a file alternative that's modular enough to resist that kind of catastrophic failure and interoperable enough to inspect/repair if anything ever happens.
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