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How the Elite See Rome

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Re: How the Elite See Rome

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As an aside I once went on a tour of the museums of Amsterdam with an expert guide (paid for by the company I was visiting). It was fantastic! A completely different experience from being a regular tourist. I learned far more about Amsterdam and the art than I could possibly have done on my own.

Re: How the Elite See Rome

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Isn't this the case globally and not just Rome? It's a business decision, if the rich person wants to pay and its more profitable than the alternative and/or may get massive press or social exposure than it may get a yes. If a mega-celebrity wants to visit the Louvre, the Louvre (and French police) don't want the headache of it getting leaked on social media and thousands of fanatical Stans turning up as a mob, so sa…

It's the case the world over across every sector of the economy.

Frito Lay or isn't gonna stop a line because some bearing is dying. Someone is gonna show up on Friday night and get to work.

Re: How the Elite See Rome

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What's your problem? It's not like employees are doing it for free.

I don't necessarily share this view, but I've heard it enough times to steelman it: It's about dignity. I don't want to feel like someone owns me or can tell me what to do just because they lose some pocket change in my direction. You know the notion of the "deserving poor" that deserves our aid and pity? There's a corresponding idea of a deserving customer. I'd do my best impression of a dog for you if you ask nicel…

> I'd do my best impression of a dog for you...

A better comparison - you're a member of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actors%27_Equity_Association, the part which you auditioned for says "dog", and the script & stage directions are within general AEA guidelines for animal parts.

I've only volunteered in museum work - but there are obvious social rules about interacting with wealthy benefactors, and I'd assume that any competent employer in this space is carefully screening for comfort and skill with those rules.

(BTW, "wealthy benefactor" is very much a pay-to-win system, with tier after tier of "just how many $thousands did you graciously gift us with this year?" reward levels.)

Re: How the Elite See Rome

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I’d work a museum at 2 A.M. for enough pay and time off.

What about your family? Are they ok with that? And we both know that the involved museum employees do "not het enough pay", this is 2026 we're talking about.

> What about your family? Are they ok with that?

I'm single without kids so yes

> And we both know that the involved museum employees do "not het enough pay", this is 2026 we're talking about

Context from the parent comment

> There is no real reason why a museum can't be open at 2 A.M., it's just that it's economically impossible, unless someone pays enough money.

Re: How the Elite See Rome

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As an aside I once went on a tour of the museums of Amsterdam with an expert guide (paid for by the company I was visiting). It was fantastic! A completely different experience from being a regular tourist. I learned far more about Amsterdam and the art than I could possibly have done on my own.

When I first started traveling I avoided guides, and didn’t want to be a “tourist”. Over the years I’ve gotten over that and started going on more tours, I learn so much more than I otherwise would, and get access to places that are normally off limits. It’s a much better experience.

Re: How the Elite See Rome

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Tourism has to be managed. Most istitutions can't, or can in a relatively limited manner. Rich people provide both the money and the reputation to allow them to have profitable private tours without risking too much. There is no real reason why a museum can't be open at 2 A.M., it's just that it's economically impossible, unless someone pays enough money. There is no real reason why a small church painted by Giotto c…

I went to a wedding/reception at a museum after hours. It was fantastic. Not only was it a cool and unique setting, but it allowed those who aren’t into dancing all night something to do as they split off into little groups and wandered around, exploring exhibits. It made for a great ice breaker.

Re: How the Elite See Rome

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As an aside I once went on a tour of the museums of Amsterdam with an expert guide (paid for by the company I was visiting). It was fantastic! A completely different experience from being a regular tourist. I learned far more about Amsterdam and the art than I could possibly have done on my own.

This is true with basically every place and a proper guide.

I understand why people don't usually hire a person to walk then around when they're traveling solo or with their family, but if you're a mildly curious person it's a fantastic way to experience museums, archeology and nature.

Re: How the Elite See Rome

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Where's the line between in-depth reporting and long-form advert? The Atlantic's reader base is the exact target audience for such services

Presumably the line is whether or not the publisher is getting paid for the writing.

The Atlantic does do branded content from time to time, but they always explicitly label it as such. I would bet a substantial sum that this article is not an advertisement.

Re: How the Elite See Rome

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Isn't this the case globally and not just Rome? It's a business decision, if the rich person wants to pay and its more profitable than the alternative and/or may get massive press or social exposure than it may get a yes. If a mega-celebrity wants to visit the Louvre, the Louvre (and French police) don't want the headache of it getting leaked on social media and thousands of fanatical Stans turning up as a mob, so sa…

Or maybe we just ban celebrities from going to the Louvre, period. If you've decided that you need to be popular so badly that you ruin it for other people when you go to the public places, you should be banned from public places. Be happy with your fame and stay away from us peons. That's what you wanted.
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