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How the Elite See Rome

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Re: How the Elite See Rome

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Tourism has to be managed. Most istitutions can't, or can in a relatively limited manner. Rich people provide both the money and the reputation to allow them to have profitable private tours without risking too much. There is no real reason why a museum can't be open at 2 A.M., it's just that it's economically impossible, unless someone pays enough money. There is no real reason why a small church painted by Giotto c…

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So night guards shouldn't exist?

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to add to the neighbour comment: Night shifts are very popular in German car factories as they give good money.

Stating the obvious, but you can of course see it as: there are more than enough workers that need the extra money so urgently that they are happy to screw up their health and social life. Whether they really "need" the money is another discussion.

Re: How the Elite See Rome

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Rome has always been a city for the elite. Current day Rome is more accessible than ever for the commoners. If rich people pay money for private access and part of that money ends up being used for preservation: Good.

They could also just tax rich people more and use that money for conservation...

Italy's taxes are already quite high, but they do have some regimes to encourage HNW people to move there.

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I’d work a museum at 2 A.M. for enough pay and time off.

What about your family? Are they ok with that? And we both know that the involved museum employees do "not het enough pay", this is 2026 we're talking about.

Re: How the Elite See Rome

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who is they? I doubt the Italian state can tax American or Singaporean rich tourists.

You could change tourist tax to be 5% of the room rate. That would be €5 to €10 per night for common people and €1000 per night for rich tourists.

How does this achieve the aim of a rich person seeing a painting that is not on public display?

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What's your problem? It's not like employees are doing it for free.

I don't necessarily share this view, but I've heard it enough times to steelman it: It's about dignity. I don't want to feel like someone owns me or can tell me what to do just because they lose some pocket change in my direction. You know the notion of the "deserving poor" that deserves our aid and pity? There's a corresponding idea of a deserving customer. I'd do my best impression of a dog for you if you ask nicel…

I get the point, but I assume the people keeping the museum open at 2 AM for some rich dude are the same people who do exactly that kind of job in normal hours.

In other words, they are asked to do overtime. So, as long as they are getting adequately paid for that overtime and they are not forced to do so (but I assume you can always find at least two people out of 20 who could do that), I don't think it's a big deal.

Re: How the Elite See Rome

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I don't necessarily share this view, but I've heard it enough times to steelman it: It's about dignity. I don't want to feel like someone owns me or can tell me what to do just because they lose some pocket change in my direction. You know the notion of the "deserving poor" that deserves our aid and pity? There's a corresponding idea of a deserving customer. I'd do my best impression of a dog for you if you ask nicel…

I get the point, but I assume the people keeping the museum open at 2 AM for some rich dude are the same people who do exactly that kind of job in normal hours. In other words, they are asked to do overtime. So, as long as they are getting adequately paid for that overtime and they are not forced to do so (but I assume you can always find at least two people out of 20 who could do that), I don't think it's a big deal…

> and they are not forced to do so

That would be my concern. I bet in at least some cases they're told something like be here at 2 AM or don't be here tomorrow.

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