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I'm kind of impressed how often they manage to do this. Claude Code and Grok Build do resets too, but nowhere near this often. And in an ironic twist for a big company with the infrastructure, Google Antigravity never seems to do resets like this at all (at least that I've noticed). I wonder how much this stuff costs OpenAI to do?

Some of these resets were because of bugs in the 5.6 launch that caused subagent-users to burn _a lot_ of extra tokens. It was placating customers.

It is impressive they've got the capacity to do so.

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post #15

Crazy value for money now with the banked resets. At my $COMPANY, we have claude enterprise at API pricing. I've blown through $10k already this month, opting for Opus 4.8 w/ Sonnet 5 agents where possible. On my codex pro plan, I am 5.6 sol'ing my way everyday with the odd ultra mode. Point being my real API usage here must be very unsustainable!

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post #117
post #15

Crazy value for money now with the banked resets. At my $COMPANY, we have claude enterprise at API pricing. I've blown through $10k already this month, opting for Opus 4.8 w/ Sonnet 5 agents where possible. On my codex pro plan, I am 5.6 sol'ing my way everyday with the odd ultra mode. Point being my real API usage here must be very unsustainable!

Does the company actually gets any value close to your salary + benefits + ~15k$ you gonna burn this month?

Yes I honestly think if we pull it off the revenue would easily pay off. Otherwise an expensive experiment, but with fewer staff so the damage is less than it used to be and a verdict much faster.

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#144
post #55

Those resets and the removal of the 5-hour usage limit are quietly anchoring me to a much higher usage baseline. I've stopped rationing and just spawn a bunch of agents to work at whatever pace I want, because there always seem to be more resets on the way (at least true for the last week). And now I am actually worried about that if one day they just stop doing so, my "normal" workflow will suddenly exceed the limit…

All these resets are given because of rival competition. When they win the market, we are going to be squeezed $$$.

This is actually what I've started to feel a vague nagging concern about as well..

Say what you will, there's no way I'm going back to non-AI assisted coding. Even though I don't use AI to generate code or assets, it's great for reviews and brainstorming etc.

What if OpenAI/Anthropic decide to do a Netflix/Spotify move and pull the rug out from under us one day?

Like skyrocketing the price, or limiting peasants to older models (because Glorious Leader said so), or maybe some leak comes out that they've been spying on us all along.

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#145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All these resets are given because of rival competition. When they win the market, we are going to be squeezed $$$.

This is actually what I've started to feel a vague nagging concern about as well.. Say what you will, there's no way I'm going back to non-AI assisted coding. Even though I don't use AI to generate code or assets, it's great for reviews and brainstorming etc. What if OpenAI/Anthropic decide to do a Netflix/Spotify move and pull the rug out from under us one day? Like skyrocketing the price, or limiting peasants to ol…

It's a competitive market. Kimi K3 has almost reached parity with Opus.

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post #56
post #2

Is Claude also doing something like this? I saw my Fable limit resetting earlier than expected.

Nope. Anthropic is incredibly greedy and always has been.

They're far shorter of GPUs, apparently. OpenAI made huge hardware deals last year (which look less crazy now).

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#147

I'm kind of impressed how often they manage to do this. Claude Code and Grok Build do resets too, but nowhere near this often. And in an ironic twist for a big company with the infrastructure, Google Antigravity never seems to do resets like this at all (at least that I've noticed). I wonder how much this stuff costs OpenAI to do?

They can do it often because they have compute, and they have compute mostly because they are pretty far behind Anthropic when it comes to heavy enterprise users. They’ve supposedly added several million since 5.6 launch, which is a steep growth curve. We will see if those users stick around. Anecdotally, I’ve stopped using it for anything major because it has attempted to do some very unsafe things when I wasn’t loo…

I’m not sure if resets require that much compute, maybe a few whales will use the service a bit more right after a reset. What matters more is the money, as they’re giving away free usage, and subsidising subscription users even more.

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post #137

This feels a lot like free spins in slot machines. I have a friend obsessed with using up all the Fable usage which supposedly ends today. He's doing a lot of stuff of questionable usefulness just because it's a resource perceived as scarce.

Permafable got announced earlier this week, but definitely the slot machine feel is real.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can do it often because they have compute, and they have compute mostly because they are pretty far behind Anthropic when it comes to heavy enterprise users. They’ve supposedly added several million since 5.6 launch, which is a steep growth curve. We will see if those users stick around. Anecdotally, I’ve stopped using it for anything major because it has attempted to do some very unsafe things when I wasn’t loo…

I’m not sure if resets require that much compute, maybe a few whales will use the service a bit more right after a reset. What matters more is the money, as they’re giving away free usage, and subsidising subscription users even more.

It’s a false idea that a reset “gives you more”. You don’t get any more tokens post reset than before. If you were consuming faster than your allowance before the reset then you probably end up with some free usage, but most people are not likely so far over their pro-rata limit that it’s a huge cost for OpenAI.

What it does incentivise is pushing more usage in case there’s a reset-generating additional demand. Probably sounds good in the boardroom that token consumption is up X% this quarter.

Unlikely to last forever, but for now the goal is to beat Anthropic. Up until the Mythos/Fable debacle, I’d have said Anthropic were leading, but if you’ll forgive the pun, I think they flew to close to the sun, and when Sol came out, they’d shot their “Mythos/Fable” shot and it turned out to be… good, but not revolutionary.

Re: Codex Resets

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post #137

This feels a lot like free spins in slot machines. I have a friend obsessed with using up all the Fable usage which supposedly ends today. He's doing a lot of stuff of questionable usefulness just because it's a resource perceived as scarce.

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