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NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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> Because it's to an extreme degree a landlord's market and thus none of them have any incentive to do more than the bare minimum? okay let's change that? seems bad

It's a landlord's market because there are not enough properties, if there was a larger supply the tenants would be able to make choices and defacto reject bad options. How do you change that, short of building more?

Require advertisements for property to include the floor (and ground) area.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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While we're at it, this should cover products and food in general too. I hate it when I see a poster that clearly has AI-generated images of food and the actual food you get is nowhere near what they generated.

Or even if it's similar, it's still clearly staged to look more appealing than what you should be getting.

Everyone knows deceptive advertising is bad, but somehow those who use AI for advertising turned their brains off on this topic because the images looked cooler than what they'd normally produce with a camera.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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There is square footage on many NYC listings, but it’s wrong. They often have the square footage of the total area occupied by the apartment, including all the interior walls and columns that can take 20% of the area away.

Wild. In Netherlands (and I assume other European countries as well) there’s a regulatory norm for how spaces should be measured - what counts as liveable, non-liveable, etc. It’s so much fairer and clearer for everyone involved. https://www.nen.nl/bouw/beheer-en-onderhoud/oppervlaktebepal...

Right? Germany too. I wouldn’t even have thought this could be a problem…

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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While we're at it, this should cover products and food in general too. I hate it when I see a poster that clearly has AI-generated images of food and the actual food you get is nowhere near what they generated. Or even if it's similar, it's still clearly staged to look more appealing than what you should be getting. Everyone knows deceptive advertising is bad, but somehow those who use AI for advertising turned their…

You realize that food photography for decades essentially did the same thing? No Burger ever served at McDonalds has ever matched the looks of their advertising, nor is the actual prop-thing that was photographed remotely eatable. There exists an entire form of mastery around this work.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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The motivation is good, the implementation sucks. > requiring disclosure of AI-altered listings So all the landlords will just disclose it and everyone will continue to be deceived. Just like every other picture on Meta platforms these days says it is AI-edited. That didn't make the feed any better; it's still a feed full of disclosed AI crap. Why is this mayor so fucking chicken to just BAN AI-altered listings altog…

Relax. This post is wildly aggressive for no reason.

I'm just tired of regulators realizing the right things to regulate but not implementing them correctly.

Job postings must include a salary range? Who the fuck thought of that? Did they even ask a mathematician whether providing the min() and max() would be useful rather than mean(), median(), and std(), which is what the law really should require?

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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It's a landlord's market because there are not enough properties, if there was a larger supply the tenants would be able to make choices and defacto reject bad options. How do you change that, short of building more?

Require advertisements for property to include the floor (and ground) area.

…and define rules for the measurement taken, like no stairs, count areas below roof sloping or outside on balconies etc. with a lower factor, exclude shared areas and cellars/attics, and so on.

Not measuring correctly, not publishing the measurements, or publishing incorrect measurements outside an error margin gets counted as deception. Offer a simple reporting contact point to citizens to report landlords or offers that violate this regulation without a lawsuit.

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I'm pretty sure if they stopped skirting the laws, it'd eliminate a decent cohort of their customer base. Watching someone come through a pedestrian area at 45 mph on a "bicycle" that clearly is an electric motorcycle is pretty interesting.

Holy crap! How do they stop at that speed with those thin bicycle tires?

What thin bicycle tires - they are much thicker than normal.

However yes they are a problem.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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I am a big supporter of AI and use it heavily. I agree with this. It's not about AI at all. It's about a blanket ban to prevent deceit when selling a product or service. It should be depicted as it is. AI just lowers the barrier for deceit (unfortunately), but it's not the only tool that can be used towards that end. Ban all deceitful advertising.

Thanks, and you can go ahead and ban all the regular advertising too while you're at it.

I am all for it, where do I sign? The whole ad world has brought nothing but problems to our world.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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post #195

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Wild. In Netherlands (and I assume other European countries as well) there’s a regulatory norm for how spaces should be measured - what counts as liveable, non-liveable, etc. It’s so much fairer and clearer for everyone involved. https://www.nen.nl/bouw/beheer-en-onderhoud/oppervlaktebepal...

Right? Germany too. I wouldn’t even have thought this could be a problem…

In some countries, like a poster mentioned, they include the “built” size, not the actual liveable size. Sometimes the balconies are included in that, and it is misleading. Two bedrooms in 900sqf liveable is one thing vs 3 bedrooms in 900sqf built area including balconies.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is square footage on many NYC listings, but it’s wrong. They often have the square footage of the total area occupied by the apartment, including all the interior walls and columns that can take 20% of the area away.

Wild. In Netherlands (and I assume other European countries as well) there’s a regulatory norm for how spaces should be measured - what counts as liveable, non-liveable, etc. It’s so much fairer and clearer for everyone involved. https://www.nen.nl/bouw/beheer-en-onderhoud/oppervlaktebepal...

Regulations? That sounds very anti freedom.
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