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Even Microsoft couldn't make Windows 11 work well on 8GB of RAM
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Re: Even Microsoft couldn't make Windows 11 work well on 8GB of RAM
#12- stop making bloated stuff
Re: Even Microsoft couldn't make Windows 11 work well on 8GB of RAM
#13I think this is slightly misleading. Modern OSes intentionally use available RAM for caching and will reclaim it when needed. The issue isn’t that Windows is “using 6.7 GB”, but whether the system is under memory pressure and paging. I’m not convinced the author fully understands that.
Windows 11 seems to reserve a lot of memory that isn't available to applications. The amount of in-use RAM on a freshly booted system is pretty high, and an 8GB system struggles under light load. I have one that can't run a VM on hyper-V, it just can't reserve even 512MB. The frustrating thing is that 6+ GB is in use but the applications visible in task manager add up to a small fraction of that, maybe 1-2 GB. I think it's being used mainly by the integrated graphics.
Re: Even Microsoft couldn't make Windows 11 work well on 8GB of RAM
#14I remember that EMACS meant Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping, a reference to the Emacs editor requiring a system with 8 MB of memory and then still swapping. It was considered an exaggeration. Even Windows 95 could run OK-ish on a system with 4 MB of memory, with 8 MB being plenty. We have gained some things in the meantime, and lost some too.
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#15Microslop should stop adding slop like candy crush and 1990 fossil, react native just for the shake of backward compatibility.
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#16It's bizarre to see 8GB spoken of as barely sufficient for basic uses. I remember when the baseline was measured in megabytes.
"640kBs should be enough for anyone"? I have 64kB and half of it is ROM and VRAM.
I agree that It is silly that an OS that is still basically NT 3.1 needs 8GB to run.
In early XP days, it was 32MB for the OS and 2GB for Firefox.
I suppose the answer to the riddle is that now every program included in Windows is an Electron abomination with its own "Firefox".
Soon, every "Firefox" will include its own slightly different LLM.
NOTEPAD.EXE will run at 2FPS on your 256GB AI box.
Re: Even Microsoft couldn't make Windows 11 work well on 8GB of RAM
#17It's bizarre to see 8GB spoken of as barely sufficient for basic uses. I remember when the baseline was measured in megabytes.
What to expect when the culture is to deliver Electron crap as "native" apps?
The other day I heard on a podcast a guy complaining how hard it was to do backend software in terms of performance, his tooling? Node.js.
Naturally when even Microsoft gets these folks as coders that is what we get, Webview2 all over the place on basic OS, C or C++ code that barely works.
Re: Even Microsoft couldn't make Windows 11 work well on 8GB of RAM
#18My current "daily driver" Chromebook is 8GiB, and I've basically never felt a resource crunch while doing daily driver things.
I would never have chosen a Windows system with less than 16GiB, but the ChromeOS is so lean, and basically doesn't need to add a bunch of drivers or 3rd party software at all, and so everything fits in the 8GiB of system memory without any issue.
Re: Even Microsoft couldn't make Windows 11 work well on 8GB of RAM
#19It's bizarre to see 8GB spoken of as barely sufficient for basic uses. I remember when the baseline was measured in megabytes.
"640kBs should be enough for anyone"? I have 64kB and half of it is ROM and VRAM. I agree that It is silly that an OS that is still basically NT 3.1 needs 8GB to run. In early XP days, it was 32MB for the OS and 2GB for Firefox. I suppose the answer to the riddle is that now every program included in Windows is an Electron abomination with its own "Firefox". Soon, every "Firefox" will include its own slightly differe…
"basically NT 3.1" is an incredible over exaggeration. Total RAM capacity has stagnated over the years and subsequent generations of DDR have backed speed instead.
8GB in a computer was considered good in a consumer performance machine in 2010. 16 years before that was 6-8MB.
Re: Even Microsoft couldn't make Windows 11 work well on 8GB of RAM
#20It's bizarre to see 8GB spoken of as barely sufficient for basic uses. I remember when the baseline was measured in megabytes.
8 GB was getting common like 16 years ago...