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ECHR confirms ethical veganism is a protected philosophical belief

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Re: ECHR confirms ethical veganism is a protected philosophical belief

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Hindu drink milk and eat cheese, butter, and honey. Not vegan.

I know vegans who consume dairy/eggs once they become responsible for the husbandry of those sources.

I wish this form of Veganism was more well-known. I know a few Vegans who went down a similar path and who were told by a few people they were no longer Vegan. They took the easier path and stopped calling themselves Vegans, which I thought was sad given their objectives when becoming Vegan were clear from the get-go.

Re: ECHR confirms ethical veganism is a protected philosophical belief

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Hindu drink milk and eat cheese, butter, and honey. Not vegan.

I know vegans who consume dairy/eggs once they become responsible for the husbandry of those sources.

There is a concept that my maternal grandmother had that they would always having their own husbandry (cows/buffalos) within her village and yes, they didn't eat eggs as well.

My maternal grandfather was a teacher which was a really prestigious job at that time, the only reason that they had their own cows was because of the belief. Reflecting upon it now, I believe it to be a good faith belief, they took care of the animals as well in terms of personal care from what I've heard of stories growing up, my mother still remembers some of the cows/buffalos and their names and other things so that's nice to hear as well :)

Re: ECHR confirms ethical veganism is a protected philosophical belief

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I think veganism in America went through a popular phase, then simply faded as a pop concept. Perhaps your experiences in the UK merely reflect that, there, it is just going through a temporary uptick of fad.

It's been there for decades.

It's been everywhere for decades - that's not the point. It's fadishness that is what may be going on here: restaurants are the tip of the spear of new trends.

Re: ECHR confirms ethical veganism is a protected philosophical belief

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I think veganism in America went through a popular phase, then simply faded as a pop concept. Perhaps your experiences in the UK merely reflect that, there, it is just going through a temporary uptick of fad.

People have gotten sick of the constant virtue-signaling.

And then they get un-sick of it. Fads come and go, constantly re-inventing themselves and getting rediscovered.

Re: ECHR confirms ethical veganism is a protected philosophical belief

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That’s interesting. I wonder if that’s a byproduct of the strong Indian influences? I would imagine its popular there as well.

Hindu drink milk and eat cheese, butter, and honey. Not vegan.

Jains would be vegan though i assume?

Re: ECHR confirms ethical veganism is a protected philosophical belief

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I spent 2 weeks in the UK recently and they are light years ahead of the US in terms of veganism and cruelty free products. I was actually quite shocked about how many options the grocery stores had and how almost every restaurant had a vegan option, or even a vegan menu. The trend in the US has been to hide the word ‘vegan’ from consumers and bury it in their website somewhere. Not so in the UK. Brands seem super ha…

I was kind of surprised when I traveled to NY and SF from Melbourne. I knew Melbourne was fairly up there in vego/vegan friendliness, but took it for granted that NY and SF would be a cakewalk. Hardly appalling, but there were times I could not eat anything on the menu at some places and I'm only vegetarian, and in many instances I had only a single option. Was a little strange.

Re: ECHR confirms ethical veganism is a protected philosophical belief

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I think veganism in America went through a popular phase, then simply faded as a pop concept. Perhaps your experiences in the UK merely reflect that, there, it is just going through a temporary uptick of fad.

People have gotten sick of the constant virtue-signaling.

That would suggest a fundamental difference in practical ethics between the two cultures.

It sounds like people over there in America don’t do things because they enjoy doing them or because they’re convinced that those are the right things to do, but rather they do them to impress others or improve their social standing.

It doesn’t sound right to me, I mean a culture can’t be so totally obsessed with the self.

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