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Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

raytopia wrote: post #46

Nearlyfreespeech is a great service though not a 100% independent as your still relying on them. I think the closest you can get to 100% independent without running your own internet infrastructure is either port forwarding from your home (if allowed) or hosting a website through TOR which isn't too hard. You just have to download the browser and edit a config file (torrc) with the port you want on the network. Not i…

> port forwarding from your home

Not 100% independent then. You still depend on your isp.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by QuantumNomad_ »

raytopia wrote: post #46

Nearlyfreespeech is a great service though not a 100% independent as your still relying on them. I think the closest you can get to 100% independent without running your own internet infrastructure is either port forwarding from your home (if allowed) or hosting a website through TOR which isn't too hard. You just have to download the browser and edit a config file (torrc) with the port you want on the network. Not i…

> You could even go to your domain provider and have one of your domains redirect to your .onion address so people don't need to memorize it.

Apparently [1] there are also ways that Tor Browser supports, for directing visitors to the onion address via the “normal” internet:

- Onion-Location

> The Onion-Location method was introduced on Tor Browser 9.5 as a way for service operators announce their Onion Services in their regular HTTPS sites. It's specified under tor-browser-spec's Proposal 100 - "Onion redirects using Onion-Location HTTP header".

- Alt-Svc

> Similar to Onion-Location, the Alt-Svc method also uses an HTTP Header (the Alt-Svc Header, specified by RFC 7838), which means that the user first need to access the regular site before their browser discovers the alternate Onion Service address.

> But contrary to Onion-Location, the Alt-Svc method:

> - Does not support an HTML tag, as it relies entirely in the Alt-Svc Header.

> - Is fully transparent: all the discovery and upgrade happens automatically, without user intervention.

- Additionally, they also speak of future possibilities for DNS or DNSSEC-based Onion Association.

[1]: https://onionservices.torproject.org/research/proposals/usab...

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by wpm »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #51
raytopia wrote: post #46

Nearlyfreespeech is a great service though not a 100% independent as your still relying on them. I think the closest you can get to 100% independent without running your own internet infrastructure is either port forwarding from your home (if allowed) or hosting a website through TOR which isn't too hard. You just have to download the browser and edit a config file (torrc) with the port you want on the network. Not i…

> port forwarding from your home Not 100% independent then. You still depend on your isp.

Indeed. I also depend on my power company, the entire global supply chain to provide me with computers to purchase, copper mines for the networking cables I use, oil fields all over the globe for the plastic, etc etc etc.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by charcircuit »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #18
tamimio wrote: post #5

Well this is great, even going further and hosting the site itself and serve it instead of webhosts, but, now we have domains issue, a domain registrar hijacking your domain, which is your life work, email, etc., so there’s a need to have a free tld that’s uncontrollable by any entity, .onion isn’t practical obviously.

There's no such thing as a TLD that's uncontrollable by any entity. How would you imagine such a thing working? Whatever you imagine: how does it stand up to me editing the hosts file, or the browser's source code?

>There's no such thing as a TLD that's uncontrollable by any entity.

Think .crypto but without the ability to upgrade the smart contract to censor domains. The registry is spread out across a whole decentralized network of computers of which has another decentralized network of computers that proxy requests exists.

>how does it stand up to me editing the hosts file, or the browser's source code?

No one can force you to resolve domains YOU don't want to. You can of course blow up your computer and then you definitely can't resolve the domain. What people mean is that the user is free to still resolve it if they want.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by QuantumNomad_ »

wpm wrote: post #53
loloquwowndueo wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> port forwarding from your home Not 100% independent then. You still depend on your isp.

Indeed. I also depend on my power company, the entire global supply chain to provide me with computers to purchase, copper mines for the networking cables I use, oil fields all over the globe for the plastic, etc etc etc.

Something, something, if you want to make an apple pie from scratch you first have to invent the universe.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by charcircuit »

tancop wrote: post #29
Jabrov wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need a static IP address for this to work is the downside, and depending on where you live and who your provider it it can be difficult and/or expensive.

you can go ipv6 only, any good isp will give you a static /56 for free. practically none of your users have ipv4 only devices when every major os has been dual stack by default for like 15 years. if your isp cant give you one its time to switch as soon as you can.

My ISP is only ipv4. It doesn't matter if an OS technically support ipv6 or not.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by shermantanktop »

shermantanktop wrote: post #21
bayindirh wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering many people doesn't know what a file is, keeping the spirit alive is important, I think.

I encountered juniors straight out of school who don’t know what tar is, or rsync, or what a symlink is. It’s all learnable and everyone starts somewhere. But you’d think natural curiosity would kick in and they’d have picked up some of this on their own by the time they have a job.

Ok, sure, windows.

But here’s one I heard literally two days ago: we counted three engineers (out of many) who knew that physical memory was not actually a giant flat space of contiguous addresses, and that there were multiple layers of address-mapping and region-joining glue logic between a program and the hardware, including in os libraries, and even inside the hardware.

Maybe knowing such information is archaic or useless for most engineers. But the good ones (or at least a certain flavor of the good ones) ask questions that lead them there.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by zikduruqe »

wildzzz wrote: post #31
shermantanktop wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I encountered juniors straight out of school who don’t know what tar is, or rsync, or what a symlink is. It’s all learnable and everyone starts somewhere. But you’d think natural curiosity would kick in and they’d have picked up some of this on their own by the time they have a job.

If all you do is write code for Windows, why would you need to know what any of that is?

Because Steam... /s
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