So i buy from my own money fabrics, machines and also i pay handy people to make clothes out of it. I can not sell them all. My Risk. And as an additional punishment i lose the right to do whatever i want with my own property? Mad world.
EU ban on destruction of unsold clothes and shoes enters into application
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#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
It in fact does cost them more to give things than to destroy them.
... and it costs society more to process the destroyed waste, and it costs society more to then deal with the fallout of shelters not having enough clothes. Or not. Who knows. The point is, this 'economically it is more efficient' is not a proven case because the externalities need to be taken into account, and so far the person I've been responding to seems to not understand this part, or is ignoring it.
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#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, I have a accurate belief that food is one of the most fundamental and important resources for humans and the lack of it causes enormous suffering and long term harm.
Good thing options and supply are abundant!
13.7 percent (18.3 million) of U.S. households were food insecure at some time during 2024.
8.3 percent (11.1 million) of U.S. households had low food security in 2024.
5.4 percent (7.2 million) of U.S. households had very low food security at some time during 2024.
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#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
"do you imagine anyone can walk into the store and get it" YES, BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO THROW IT AWAY! You would prefer to see edible food being wasted instead of eaten? That is very weird.
Why would anyone ever pay at the store then instead of getting the free food? E.g. Just wait and it is all free. I dont prefer to see food thrown away, but I also like having Markets and farmers with functional businesses.
A third of the world's food goes to waste, but France is attempting to do something about it. Since 2016, large grocery stores in the country have been banned from throwing away unsold food that could be given away.
Re: EU ban on destruction of unsold clothes and shoes enters into application
#285Wouldn't that drive textile manufacturing out of the EU?
No, this will give EU textile manufacturing an advantage, because they mostly produce low volume high value products. This will hurt fast fashion importers the most.
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#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
This whole story that Europe suffers from overregulation is just in parts true, and mainly lazy thinking. In fact there was a study by an American law school that came to the conclusion that the US has more bureaucracy than many European countries… Recommended read: https://www.andybudd.com/archives/2026/04/the-lazy-myth-that...
I don't really find this article persuasive. To pick out a good example of why: > The debate around chlorinated chicken was never really just about chicken. It became a symbol of something larger: the fear that “market access” would become a polite way of saying, “please lower your food and safety standards so our companies can sell more easily into your market.” You can dismiss that as protectionism if you like. Fro…
That’s seems like a thing I want a regulator to do. A regulator making decisions only on first order effects seems doomed to fail.
Re: EU ban on destruction of unsold clothes and shoes enters into application
#287It seems like this policy would lead to shortages in less common sizes of clothing.
Re: EU ban on destruction of unsold clothes and shoes enters into application
#288(I can't find a source, but I thought a similar thing happened in Shakespeare's time, except I remember it being children going around collecting old scraps of clothing. And in my head it's related to act 1 scene 1 of Hamlet, the famous quote: "But, look, the morn, in russet mantle clad". A mantle was a kind of cloak, and russet was the cloth it was made from which was originally reddish (though eventually "russet" was just this rough cloth of various colors). So I think maybe "shoddy" is a kind of evolution of "russet".)
Re: EU ban on destruction of unsold clothes and shoes enters into application
#289- https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/jun/05/y...
- https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/18/discarded-clot...
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The EU is doing everything it can to fail. The only thing that seems to be coming out of the EU in the last 20 years is regulation. It seems to be its only invention and contribution to itself. They have no upper bounds on creativity when it comes to creating rules that disrupt business. I can't tell if this is coming from jealousy or incompetence—or perhaps a combination of both. They see the rest of the world, espe…
You're arguing in favor of destroying unworn clothes instead of donating to charity or discounting them as somehow being good for business? The point of this is to control against wasteful business practices, not a ban on producing or selling clothes. The EU is a $23 trillion economy, hardly a slouch even though it is underperforming. The VW example is actually something you probably don't understand - they're failin…
What they see is people burning clothes and they say "we can't do that". The result won't be that these clothes will somehow be put back on people, clearly that's not economical or this wouldn't be a problem.
Instead, they'll be put on ships and burned elsewhere, or buried, or something even worse.