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NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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Does basic photoshop count as AI usage...? What about changing color balance, dynamic range, etc?

Obviously not, though they may count as misleading image manipulation, and should be similarly regulated. The problem is subjectivity - AI is just a convenient bright line with an easy definition.

You want the government to monitor people's profiles on dating apps? The ministry of dating photos

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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post #41

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no, the photos you take with the lenses on your phone are not AI generated. They are generated from the sensors on your phone. Have you seen some of these listings? We are talking about retaining walls invented where they can’t exist, work displayed that hasn’t occurred, etc. if you show up to a property and it’s materially different than the picture that got you there, that should be illegal. If you want to make an…

iPhones use a variety of AI (though not LLM) techniques every time you take a photo. For example they use semantic segmentation where they recognize different aspects of a photo (faces, skies, skin tones, etc) and process them differently

They do a sort of automatic Lightroom edit playing with colors, shadows and masking. They do not invent things that do not exist.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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post #36

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That kind of regulation has failed over and over. The obvious outcome is that every listing will have misleading AI "photos".

Come on, there is no such thing as "trace amounts of AI" in a photo of a building.

You’ve clearly not used photoshop recently, hey?

Generative features are all over Photoshop and other image editors. Removing a coffee cup off a table is a pretty small use of AI that nobody would really object to

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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I'm assuming "AI images" means realtors using AI to stage empty rooms with furniture. I'm honestly fine with that as long as it's labeled. Having just done an apartment search a few months ago, AI staged images are surprisingly good quality. It's difficult to detect it as AI when going through a bunch of listings quickly. But yea, I guess it can cause confusion if it sticks a Peloton (or whatever) in a space where it…

AI images being able to deceive you isn’t justification, if anything it’s the opposite. The staged furniture is there to help you visualise the size of the room. While AI furniture tricks you while not accurately representing the room size and layout.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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post #64

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What? Is your claim that every photo will be labeled as AI-modified, or that people won't label AI-modified images? If the latter, just penalize the listing agents. Trivial. The entire issue is that the platforms are already inundated with misleading, unlabeled AI-modified images.

Every photo will be AI-enhanced and correctly labeled as such. Just like every Web site has a cookie warning.

Analysis on steam shows not all games have the AI tag, and games which do sell measurably worse.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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I think this could be something where the middle ground is the best option, this being, just make the rule that any listing with a picture that includes GenAI must also include the original un-AI’d photo right before it. This allows the lister to present the place as it is (important to the renter) and how it could be (important to the lister). I don’t think everything needs to be black and white

That's actually more aggressive than the rule as it exists, which merely requires that AI-modified listing photos be labeled as such.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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I'm generally a fan of laissez-faire. But it's refreshing to see common-sense policies being implemented. Like another comment posted: platform failures need higher-level (govt. in this case) intervention.

i love this rule, but then again everything i agree with is 'common sense' to me!

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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post #64

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What? Is your claim that every photo will be labeled as AI-modified, or that people won't label AI-modified images? If the latter, just penalize the listing agents. Trivial. The entire issue is that the platforms are already inundated with misleading, unlabeled AI-modified images.

Every photo will be AI-enhanced and correctly labeled as such. Just like every Web site has a cookie warning.

so therefore don't create laws or pass city ordinances? I don't understand your logic.
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