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Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by wildzzz »

shermantanktop wrote: post #21
bayindirh wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering many people doesn't know what a file is, keeping the spirit alive is important, I think.

I encountered juniors straight out of school who don’t know what tar is, or rsync, or what a symlink is. It’s all learnable and everyone starts somewhere. But you’d think natural curiosity would kick in and they’d have picked up some of this on their own by the time they have a job.

If all you do is write code for Windows, why would you need to know what any of that is?

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by wolvoleo »

neogodless wrote: post #11
bayindirh wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

However, it'll also bring all the bots and "wild west" of the internet to your house when you run your web server from home, and for anyone who has a couple of spare dollars, it's a much wiser choice to run a small VPS elsewhere to weather the storm.

shrug In 25 years of hosting a dozen domain names on a server on my home connection, this problem has not surfaced for me.

One time has to be the first and when you get hacked they're instantly inside your network unless you were smart enough to set up a DMZ or something.

Especially if you host something like wordpress with plugins you really have to be on the ball with updates.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by wolvoleo »

_def wrote: post #26

now the real fun part is how to self-host it on a machine accessible on the net without services like cloudflare or tailscale tunnels.

It used to be as simple as getting a fixed IP but these days that is indeed a lot harder to get.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by tadasv »

bayindirh wrote: post #12
jdjdjdjdjd wrote: post #9

Kind of funny that this is like some strange new concept... Having a web server and putting your stuff on it.

Considering many people doesn't know what a file is, keeping the spirit alive is important, I think.

This will get worse with new generations. They grow up on tables and phones where file system is a completely foreign concept. You need an app for everything.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by RustySwarf »

I arrived at a pretty similar system starting from similar goals.

https://rustyswarf.com, which runs on a very simple framework called Travail.

In practice, I found cloudflare necessary to deter bots/crawlers. It is indeed fairly cheap, but you're still dependent upon three entities you don't really control: the DNS, the host, and Cloudflare.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by wolvoleo »

tancop wrote: post #29
Jabrov wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need a static IP address for this to work is the downside, and depending on where you live and who your provider it it can be difficult and/or expensive.

you can go ipv6 only, any good isp will give you a static /56 for free. practically none of your users have ipv4 only devices when every major os has been dual stack by default for like 15 years. if your isp cant give you one its time to switch as soon as you can.

Ehh my ISP at home is still ipv4 only. The amount of ipv6 capable connections only just passed 50% worldwide a few months ago.

I don't think ipv6 only is feasible yet unless your audience is exclusively in Asia where ipv6 uptake is much higher due to them running out of ipv4 years ago

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by tamimio »

wolvoleo wrote: post #30
tamimio wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Cloudflare tunnels for free. I could replace that with port forwarding You could replace it with something better, like pangolin, either their cloud or even self host it too, and that way you can tunnel to other stuff like if you have a media server where you can watch your movies from anywhere in the world.

Yeah I find it a bit funny when people self host to get away from cloud and then use Cloudflare tunnels.

CF tunnels will ban your account if you used it to watch a movie due to DMCA/copyrights.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by Telaneo »

shermantanktop wrote: post #21
bayindirh wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering many people doesn't know what a file is, keeping the spirit alive is important, I think.

I encountered juniors straight out of school who don’t know what tar is, or rsync, or what a symlink is. It’s all learnable and everyone starts somewhere. But you’d think natural curiosity would kick in and they’d have picked up some of this on their own by the time they have a job.

I didn't even know about tar or rsync until I started to use Linux, and I don't really see how else one get to the point where you need to know about them. And even symlinks are still in my mind as 'shortcuts but [...]' (even though the other way around is probably more accurate). Even as a dev, it's very possible to go through life without touching Linux.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by pagoto »

Recently, I had to make a website for an event, so domain was needed, but what's cool with that is that the domain provider (Infomaniak, with which I am not affiliated btw), also provided 10 MB of storage which is large enough for a lot of things. So for something like 5€ per year (still more than 1c per day...), you can get the domain and the website, which is not too bad

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by tadasv »

_def wrote: post #26

now the real fun part is how to self-host it on a machine accessible on the net without services like cloudflare or tailscale tunnels.

Fixed IP would be a way to go. Some people pick dynamic dns server so they can periodically update if their IP changes. But IMO it's just too complicated. I don't think there's a good way to go around ISP restrictions, especially in USA.

I host my site on my own home server, but I do have a proxy ec2 server to tunnel public traffic via wireguard back to my home server. This keeps things a bit more protected and my router/home network not directly exposed. I'm also not locked into AWS, I just use them for convenience, but could get any other cheap proxy to run wireguard. No dependency on tailscale either, it's just nicer interface to wireguard. Wireguard config is like 5 lines btw.

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