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considering token efficiency as well I presume?
I'm struggling to decide whether I feel comfortable sending my data to these Chinese models
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#13Once western governments declare it to be a "national security" risk for citizens to have access to open-weight frontier models, and once they classify using these models as acts of terrorism, what will that world be like?
Will using Kimi K3 come to be like how napster was in the olden days? Everybody knew it was technically illegal, but come on -- any track at your fingertips? But surveillance is quite more evolved now.
Or it will be like cannabis, where a guy in the neighborhood will low key rent you metered access to the 8x5090 rig in his basement he cobbled together from parts on ebay? Or everyone will flock to VPNs?
Or will the oppressors actually succeed? The same way that napster is long gone, and everyone accepts that they must pay spotify for a homogenized collection, where artists must take only a minuscule cut (more than napster though)... We'll be stuck with nerfed Cohere or Mistral models for open-weight options, as if they need more lobotomizing. Or else we can pay through the nose for Anthropic/OpenAI for "American Frontier" models which will fall increasingly far behind China.
Or else, like how Kindle Fire was subsidized by ads, we'll have "Kindle AI" where influence is sold to the highest bidder, where the LLM will tell us that smoking is actually healthy if big tobacco can engineer its renaissance by turning its lobbying dollars to pay-to-play, pumping its propaganda into the training pipeline for Amazon's extra commercialized line of ultra budget LLMs.
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I'm struggling to decide whether I feel comfortable sending my data to these Chinese models
It's actually less likely for china to abuse your data in a way that is harmful towards you than for american labs to do the same. Claude has attempted in testing to report you for 'unethical' usage to 3 letter agencies.
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It's actually less likely for china to abuse your data in a way that is harmful towards you than for american labs to do the same. Claude has attempted in testing to report you for 'unethical' usage to 3 letter agencies.
How do we know that Chinese models would not do the same? What makes you so sure that China is less likely to abuse my data?
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It's actually less likely for china to abuse your data in a way that is harmful towards you than for american labs to do the same. Claude has attempted in testing to report you for 'unethical' usage to 3 letter agencies.
How do we know that Chinese models would not do the same? What makes you so sure that China is less likely to abuse my data?
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
considering token efficiency as well I presume?
I'm struggling to decide whether I feel comfortable sending my data to these Chinese models
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#19> I’ve been running Kimi K3 alongside Claude on my normal coding work, and for all practical purposes I can’t tell them apart When you say "Claude", do you mean Opus? Fable? What effort level?
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#20> I’ve been running Kimi K3 alongside Claude on my normal coding work, and for all practical purposes I can’t tell them apart When you say "Claude", do you mean Opus? Fable? What effort level?