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Re: Goodbye, and Thanks for All the Bikesheds

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> the weights of the model—which you have to sell many million times over before you turn a profit—easily fits on contemporary pocket-sized storage devices.

Which model is this author talking about? Which pocket-sized devices? Where can I get them? No one is using Gemma 4 to find cybersecurity issues.

Edit: there are a lot of sentences that I can't distinguish from sarcasm in this article. I guess I read it too seriously.

Re: Goodbye, and Thanks for All the Bikesheds

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post #23

I don't think age restriction will impact FOSS in the long term. If there are some regulations that threaten FOSS now, they are going to be adopted in the long term. Regulations for age restriction are understandable. A lot of modern technology is harming kids (and I don't mean dirty videos, social media seems to be much more harmful). A sensible regulator would leave some responsibility to the parents, but require r…

> A sensible regulator would leave some responsibility to the parents (Speaking as a parent of three) why can't we just leave all responsibility to the parents? In our experience in the offline world it seems this applies! I speak as someone who's taken each of my three children - for two of them, multiple times - to the emergency room to be treated for broken bones incurred in the course of Real Life[tm]. Yes, they…

Even in the offline world that is not the case. Ex. Alkohol sales

Re: Goodbye, and Thanks for All the Bikesheds

#43

This is a very strange read. If that was posted on a random blog, I would have dismissed it. I didn’t know that that cell (anti tech bro, anti big tech, pro age verification laws) in the alignment chart is populated by actual people. And by intelligent people even. Also the fact they call it “age verification” when they clearly build an identity verification and we just accept their language is crazy.

I have a feeling it splits by gender. I know a couple of professional programmers in that corner of the alignment chart, but they're not "bros".

Re: Goodbye, and Thanks for All the Bikesheds

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> old men who had no idea what I was talking about but were 100 percent certain that they had the infallible answer HN existed 20 years ago...? /s edit: yes it did, lol

Proof: site design

Proof: not built with react :) Long may it stay that way.

Re: Goodbye, and Thanks for All the Bikesheds

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A sensible regulator would leave some responsibility to the parents (Speaking as a parent of three) why can't we just leave all responsibility to the parents? In our experience in the offline world it seems this applies! I speak as someone who's taken each of my three children - for two of them, multiple times - to the emergency room to be treated for broken bones incurred in the course of Real Life[tm]. Yes, they…

Even in the offline world that is not the case. Ex. Alkohol sales

In many areas, this is left up to the parents - minors can't buy alcohol at stores, but parents are legally allowed to give alcohol to their children to drink.

Re: Goodbye, and Thanks for All the Bikesheds

#46
I guess tech has grown too large and fractured and maybe most working software engineers are too young to be familiar with phk and his points of view.

He's been a strong privacy and FOSS advocate for decades and has more credibility on both of these topics than nearly anyone on this board.

He also has an account and comments frequently. phkamp. I suggest reading some of his comments before making judgment.

So many kneejerk and nuance-less opinions. Absolutely hilarious that people are thinking the guy who wrote MD5crypt and BSD Jails is anti-privacy.

Also eye opening watching how many people are getting frothing-at-the-mouth mad seeing somebody with that pedigree coming to different conclusions than they do.

Re: Goodbye, and Thanks for All the Bikesheds

#47

> the weights of the model—which you have to sell many million times over before you turn a profit—easily fits on contemporary pocket-sized storage devices. Which model is this author talking about? Which pocket-sized devices? Where can I get them? No one is using Gemma 4 to find cybersecurity issues. Edit: there are a lot of sentences that I can't distinguish from sarcasm in this article. I guess I read it too serio…

He’s talking about storage required for the weights. Not actually running the model.

A large model like Kimi 3 should be something like, 1-2TB? That’s a pocket size hard drive

Re: Goodbye, and Thanks for All the Bikesheds

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post #23

I don't think age restriction will impact FOSS in the long term. If there are some regulations that threaten FOSS now, they are going to be adopted in the long term. Regulations for age restriction are understandable. A lot of modern technology is harming kids (and I don't mean dirty videos, social media seems to be much more harmful). A sensible regulator would leave some responsibility to the parents, but require r…

I strongly disagree. There are no kids in my household, and no one else ever uses my devices, so the idea that I need to prove that I'm not a kid for me to be able to pay bills or file taxes on a stock device is ridiculous.

Re: Goodbye, and Thanks for All the Bikesheds

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A sensible regulator would leave some responsibility to the parents (Speaking as a parent of three) why can't we just leave all responsibility to the parents? In our experience in the offline world it seems this applies! I speak as someone who's taken each of my three children - for two of them, multiple times - to the emergency room to be treated for broken bones incurred in the course of Real Life[tm]. Yes, they…

Even in the offline world that is not the case. Ex. Alkohol sales

You don't need to show your ID to go into the store and buy something else though, so why would this provide any sort of precedent for "you can't use the internet for literally anything on this device without proving your age"?
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