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British runner Josh Kerr breaks world record for mile which stood for 27 years

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Re: British runner Josh Kerr breaks world record for mile which stood for 27 years

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Watch him do it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYi2f4ONEDg&t=180 What an incredible performance. I've seen a sub-4 mile in person. These guys are absolutely flying. All of them. And he beats the pants off that field. Splits (400m): 400m: 55.3 800m: 1:51.1 (56.8 second lap) 1200m: 2:46.5 (55.4 second lap) 1600m: 3:41.4 (54.9 third lap) Mile: 3:42.66 Splits (100m): 100m: 13.8 200m: 27.5 (13.7) 300m: 41.0 (13.5)…

He also came close to the world record at 1500 m which is at 3:26:00, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1500_metres

Re: British runner Josh Kerr breaks world record for mile which stood for 27 years

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He had a special singlet designed and undoubtedly carbon shoes. Makes you wonder how much raw human potential has progressed vs just having better equipment and track surfaces?

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Re: British runner Josh Kerr breaks world record for mile which stood for 27 years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Makes you wonder how much raw human potential has progressed Surely raw human potential cannot have progressed very much at all in the (at most) two generations represented by the 27 years the record stood. Granted, the population is significantly higher, so it is more statistically likely that we've produced a genuinely faster human than existed 27 years ago. I think it's fairly well accepted that most of the recor…

Not everybody who can run, runs. Not everybody who runs, runs close to their full potential. Even elite athletes have a life that can “get in the way.” Many who run close to their full potential get injured and set their training back.

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Re: British runner Josh Kerr breaks world record for mile which stood for 27 years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not everybody who can run, runs. Not everybody who runs, runs close to their full potential. Even elite athletes have a life that can “get in the way.” Many who run close to their full potential get injured and set their training back.

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Re: British runner Josh Kerr breaks world record for mile which stood for 27 years

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He had a special singlet designed and undoubtedly carbon shoes. Makes you wonder how much raw human potential has progressed vs just having better equipment and track surfaces?

I'm sure the track surface and shoes are important, but if "singlet" means the clothing he is wearing? It's really hard to believe that makes a material difference.

It seems conceivable - either less drag and/or some elastic store/return of energy, but OTOH I'm not aware of marathon runners (where you might think it'd make more difference) wearing any special kit.

Could give a psychological boost though - a placebo effect - even if you only believe that it gives you an edge.

Re: British runner Josh Kerr breaks world record for mile which stood for 27 years

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What are the rules around pacers for this kind of thing? Are there separate records for with/without pacers?

I don't know, but define a pacer ?! Someone with better ability to pace than yourself? Someone of lesser endurance willing to run a half race at a pace they can't sustain, but you can? What's the difference between having a pacer and another world class competitor trying to beat you that brings out your best ?

What about slip streaming? Should we regard records differently where the winner stayed with the pack until a final sprint as opposed to front running the whole race?

Re: British runner Josh Kerr breaks world record for mile which stood for 27 years

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In Swedish news reports they were careful to specify that it was the "English mile" (sic, ish?).

For clarity, the one that is used in UK, US and Liberia. It is exactly 1609.344 meters.

Disambiguation (not readily available in non-simple English wikipedia): https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mile

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