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EU ban on destruction of unsold clothes and shoes enters into application

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Re: EU ban on destruction of unsold clothes and shoes enters into application

#91

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It's a somewhat blunt instrument used to internalize some externalities: Making a product and then destroying it is wasteful, and the market will fix all internalized costs of that waste, but some of those costs are externalized. Having society pay somewhat for producing clothes that are then worn, that's one thing. Having society pay for pointless waste is another. What you've said is: Looking only at the internaliz…

Again, the waste is not pointless, it's part of an inventory management strategy to ensure adequate supply. If your local grocery store established a policy that they'll never buy more meat than they're sure they can sell before the expiration date, they'd routinely run out.

The result of laws like this is not that the store will never buy too much, it’s that when they do buy too much they will give it away to somewhere it can be used instead of destroying it. It will not cost them much if any more to simply give things to food banks or charity shops.

Re: EU ban on destruction of unsold clothes and shoes enters into application

#92
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If your minimum run is 1000 of a size, and you can only really sell 500 because it's an uncommon size, and you would prefer to sell at full price or not at all, seems like making that size no longer fits your plans.

> prefer to sell at full price or not at all That really only applies to luxury designer brands where selling at a discount can dilute the brand prestige, is Gucci, Versace, etc. really destroying unsold inventory at large volumes vs. standard retailers?

Yes. The law was motivated by reports of luxury retailers destroying their entire stock every year. Usual stores just discount stuff until it sells.

Re: EU ban on destruction of unsold clothes and shoes enters into application

#93

I’m pretty sure all those brands would now export those clothes to non-EU Balkan countries or even Turkey to be destroyed.

Indeed. Rather than deal with it, there will just be some shell company in non EU they can export to and have it destroyed there...

Though that will obviously incur a larger cost than today.

Re: EU ban on destruction of unsold clothes and shoes enters into application

#94
post #86

So i buy from my own money fabrics, machines and also i pay handy people to make clothes out of it. I can not sell them all. My Risk. And as an additional punishment i lose the right to do whatever i want with my own property? Mad world.

it is not the year 1800 any more, some things have changed

Re: EU ban on destruction of unsold clothes and shoes enters into application

#95

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Again, the waste is not pointless, it's part of an inventory management strategy to ensure adequate supply. If your local grocery store established a policy that they'll never buy more meat than they're sure they can sell before the expiration date, they'd routinely run out.

Do you have proof of that assertion?

Happens all the time at my local butcher shop. They make a point of using the whole animal -- no waste -- but that means they are frequently out of the more popular products. For the most popular parts you sometimes have to reserve it a week in advance from a future animal.

Re: EU ban on destruction of unsold clothes and shoes enters into application

#96
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Is this a problem in the EU? I often think in terms of home remodels that a family might do at least once. Those can easily fill a dumpster with tons of garbage. That's much more waste than a family could ever generate directly or indirectly in clothing.

I reuse everything from remodels. Seems a shame to throw out always. And other skips are getting bought by others to use in their building projects.

How do you reuse plaster or drywall walls/ceilings? I’m fairly reuse-friendly, but that stuff goes straight in the dumpster for practical reasons.

Re: EU ban on destruction of unsold clothes and shoes enters into application

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how does NOT destroying edible food make food more expensive?

They have to deal with less sales and or storing excess inventory. Let's say you have some bruised bananas. You either have to keep them on the shelf till they rot (less space for sellable product) or donate them and then people won't buy as many bananas, so you need to raise the price.

People eating donated bananas are not buying bananas if there are none available for free. They are just not eating bananas.

Re: EU ban on destruction of unsold clothes and shoes enters into application

#98

I’m pretty sure all those brands would now export those clothes to non-EU Balkan countries or even Turkey to be destroyed.

Indeed. Rather than deal with it, there will just be some shell company in non EU they can export to and have it destroyed there... Though that will obviously incur a larger cost than today.

Transportation would be costly, but it could be that in whole it would be much cheaper than discarding them in let’s say in Germany. I can imagine the price to destroy 1kg of clothes in Serbia way less than in Germany

Re: EU ban on destruction of unsold clothes and shoes enters into application

#99

It should be illegal for stores to throw away edible food.

Makes it more expensive for everyone and also decentivize donating food to homeless or anyone in need.

Fiction, there are places that already do this without any of these fabled effects

Re: EU ban on destruction of unsold clothes and shoes enters into application

#100
post #86

So i buy from my own money fabrics, machines and also i pay handy people to make clothes out of it. I can not sell them all. My Risk. And as an additional punishment i lose the right to do whatever i want with my own property? Mad world.

On a planet with infinite resources it may be a mad world. On one where oil will be depleted at some point and fast fashion brands are collectively creating thousands of disposable plastic clothes models in dozen of millions of nuits per month, it's common sense to limit the madness of this industry
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