Wish a git forge would support both Actions and Gitlab CI pipelines. Reuse community workflows for simple actions, default to Gitlab CI for anything custom.
Gleam Is Now on Tangled
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Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled
#22This post needs a bunch more context; right now it's only immediately accessible to people who don't need the announcement [1]. [1] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/curtains-for-zoosha
The irony of that linked page dragging a reposted mid tweet into multiple scrollable pages of “content” and in doing so reading exactly like a celeb news article
Yeah, it turns out human culture has a lot of depth and complexity, even so-called "mid" culture. If you think you can write a better explainer, I'd love to read it.
Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled
#23I'm willing to give Tangled a go too with a project, but feature set to bridge the gap still has a long way to go (no idea how long it'll take). Github outages (especially when just viewing repos!) are getting way too disrupting.
Why Tangled instead of something more established like Codeberg, or if f/loss, Forgejo or Gitea? Just because ATProto vibes?
Yes, separation between git storage and identity. Very simple to use your own Knot instead of the default knot1, just enter your own website link to it. Not as beholden to Github downtimes that are out of your hands.
I was using Codeberg this morning, now I'm on Tangled. All I had to do was switch remote origin.
Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled
#24This post needs a bunch more context; right now it's only immediately accessible to people who don't need the announcement [1]. [1] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/curtains-for-zoosha
Headline reminds me of Poob.
Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled
#25if anyone has more info on tangled would love to hear. been looking for a decentralized git provider for a while. started self hosting but was missing the social element
I think it's currently non-selfhostable. You can host your own git server (knot) and CI runner (spindle) but not really the UI/API itself, but they're working on changing it. Currently it's a bit centralised
It is self-hostable, but Tangled could disclose that great fact a bit more upfront.
Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled
#26First hearing of tangled, tried signing up and this first time user experience needs to be tightened up. Currently unwilling to sign in because of the friction I ran into using a password manager. From what it looks like they:
- ask you for an email
- send you an email
- ask you for a username
- except you cant actually log in with this username directly
- im being forced to learn some new social url protocol
- why does the auth flow pass me through a new ui/url that seems owned by the project but visually disconnected (eg, different branding/colors for the form)
- my password manager couldnt bridge the gap
I'm notoriously fickle about dealing with signup/login friction, but the project sounds cool so hopefully my feedback is more actionable than curmudgeony.
Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled
#27I'm willing to give Tangled a go too with a project, but feature set to bridge the gap still has a long way to go (no idea how long it'll take). Github outages (especially when just viewing repos!) are getting way too disrupting.
Why Tangled instead of something more established like Codeberg, or if f/loss, Forgejo or Gitea? Just because ATProto vibes?
It also has a pretty fundamental design flaw: issue /PR comments belong to the server where the commenter is hosted, not to the repo. I’m sure they will find a workaround but finding that reduced confidence they actually understand the problem they are solving.
Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled
#28Wish a git forge would support both Actions and Gitlab CI pipelines. Reuse community workflows for simple actions, default to Gitlab CI for anything custom.
the way the CI runners on tangled work, you could just plug in your own bespoke runner as long as it fits the interface. we implement two such "engines": nixery and microvm. you can plug an engine like tack[0], which can act like a bridge interface to other CI systems. there is also loom[1], which is a kubernetes based engine.
[0]: https://tangled.org/mitchellh.com/tack
[1]: tangled.org/evan.jarrett.net/loom
Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why Tangled instead of something more established like Codeberg, or if f/loss, Forgejo or Gitea? Just because ATProto vibes?
disclaimer: i maintain tangled, some reasons to try might be: - tangled federates: https://blog.tangled.org/federation - native stacked PRs: https://blog.tangled.org/stacking - tangled implements mitchell's vouch system: https://blog.tangled.org/vouching
> - tangled federates: https://blog.tangled.org/federation
People have been talking about federation across forges for a couple of years and seems like its finally at least close to being a real thing!? That's absolutely amazing!!
Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://blog.tangled.org/seed/ Similar groups to Bluesky (bain capital crypto) and some notable CEOs GitHub's moat is not code hosting, they will need to build out the equivalent of Actions and figure out what private repos look like. Unclear how they intend to IAP with corporate identity systems, I have a hard time seeing ATProto break into that category.
Oh they raised a pretty large seed. But they don’t seem to have a business model, or at least I cannot find details on how they plan to make an actual business
I'm not sure what's been published but as someone who plays with tangled as a hobby the immediate monetisation paths I could see are:
- Charging to bypass the (admittedly very reasonable) rate limits on the main appview
- Providing paid hosting tiers for private git knots, high traffic git knots, git LOP knots, CI runners/spindles, web page hosting (via their github pages equivalent), etc
- Introducing a paid-for and permissioned nix binary cache platform since their CI spindle system is already nix-first.
- providing paid PDS hosting for corporate/business customers with SSO integration etc.
- SLAs and support contracts
There's enough options here that they have a pretty flexible path towards profitability.