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LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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> why would you use such a sleazy company's product for daily driving Because alternatives are much worse or not available for scenarios people need. There, I've said the obvious.

That may sound obvious to you, but it's not for many, and this opinion of yours is shared by fewer and fewer people.

Some things not having viable alternatives on MacOS/Linux/BSD/whatever-else is not an opinion of mine. It's just life.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Panel? Not really since Panasonic exited the market. For complete monitors, the sole make I trust is Eizo but they only make professional (business or photography) products these days, and I'm _not_ going back to 60 Hz. Dell doesn't deserve trust but their UltraSharp line usually is "okay" even if my U2724D has uniformity issues near the bottom. Iiyama also remains a good one in my books. But if you want OLED, abando…

I think Eizo is what I'm looking for, I've never heard of the brand before, so I appreciate the recommendation! Hopefully I can convince myself to buy something slower than 120... I don't mind paying for a bit more for professional gear. In part, because quality is important, but much more important to me is respect.

Their ColorEdges are definitely very good (I had a CG2730 just before that Dell) but now that my eyes tasted 120 Hz - even if only for page scrolling or the mouse pointer - I simply can't go back.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Aren’t ms completely dependent on consumer windows for mindshare? I doubt anyone would bother getting into programming with ms tech unless they just happened to run it on their desktop.

I don't think they are anymore. The vast majority of ordinary person computer/internet use has already moved to smartphones, tablets, smart TVs and other such devices. It seems nowadays many people don't even know the basics about how to use a desktop operating system.

I find this hard to believe considering how bad the UIs are on phones and TVs. Even google.com does not offer feature parity between their desktop and mobile websites.

My phone still didn't come with a functional paint or notepad apps. Google docs is a horrible experience on phones (but at least it works now - a few years ago it was straight up unusable).

And you're telling me that this is the only computing platform for a lot of people? How is everything still so unusable about it then?

My experience tells me that everything mobile is basically an afterthought outside of a few dozen websites and I guess phone games.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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>This situation has.. no precedent as far as I can tell.. Printer, mouse, tablet and display tablet makers use this to insert their crapware since at least Windows Vista or Windows 7, I think. The last one I remember is plugging a Razer mouse just to watch it instantly pulling 1.5GB of bloated junk with "telemetry" exfiltrating the data from my gaming PC in realtime. At least it doesn't leave my mouse in a non-workin…

Back in my Window days. I would start the driver installation and let it sit. Open the temp folder and copy content the install extracted to a new directory. Cancel the installation. Open Device Manager and install the drivers from there so non of the excessive bloat was installed. This worked greater with being an IT consultant. The client's machine to run smoother and drivers installed fast since they would buy mul…

7zip will do the trick for a lot of self extractors.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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I dunno why so many people across different platforms insist that anyone concerned about this is overdramatic.

This is one of those things where if I found the person responsible I would likely spit in their face; if not worse. It's quite literally spyware installed as you plug it in much like those old DVD DRMs from sony that would install spyware.

It's garbage.

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If you have been reading the news about Windows 11 then I will enlighten you -- they view the Windows 11 consumer business as a cost center that must be mitigated. As such, all manner of monetization has been approved and it will continued to be approved without regard for user experience. This article obviates that this is not an LG problem, it is a Microsoft problem. Also, don't fool yourself if you think this won'…

> don't fool yourself if you think this won't come to the Linux world. I'm curious what you mean by this. I'm not necessarily rejecting the point, but I also don't see how this could happen without substantial shifts in the industry first.

Yeah, curious here too. Torvalds would need to pass first I think, and I just don't see other major players like RedHat, Google, Canonical, or Valve introducing this themselves or agreeing to do it in aggregate. And as end users we could still fork and patch it out. Some shitty company might try but I don't think it would stand.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Seriously, why use Windows in 2026? Such a hideous OS and ecosystem with endless malware, backdoors, and dark patterns.

Excellent hardware and software support (especially for Snapdragon/ARM64 CPUs and Microsoft Office) and best in class multitasking/window management are the top 2 reasons for me. Like someone else said, it's the worst OS, except for all the others :)

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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This is an excellent use of agentic AI, btw. Fire Claude up and say, "Remove LG malware and mcafee from this computer. Make regex changes so it can't be installed again." My current windows 10 install is cleaner than any other windows machine I've ever owned due to using Claude to deep dive and rip stuff out.

Giving the data to Anthropic instead of giving it to LG and McAffee, fascinating

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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This is so much worse that the title makes it out to be: 1. Your OS installs malware (technically manufacturers software) from a 3rd party vendor in background, zero user interaction 2. Happens as soon as you or anyone with physical access plug in a device into the HDMI port 3. That malware has internet and full system access, no sandboxing 4. It starts with every system boot 5. This software gets installed when you…

8. ANd this isn't specific to LG. If LG can do it, anyone can, even if they aren't right now.

Buying from companies you trust isn't a solution either. Founders sometimes get into fatal car accidents or lose some of their assets in messy divorces. THe new owners may not care about "brand reputation" and sell the company to the highest bidder.

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