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LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by formerly_proven »

devttyeu wrote: post #20

This is so much worse that the title makes it out to be: 1. Your OS installs malware (technically manufacturers software) from a 3rd party vendor in background, zero user interaction 2. Happens as soon as you or anyone with physical access plug in a device into the HDMI port 3. That malware has internet and full system access, no sandboxing 4. It starts with every system boot 5. This software gets installed when you…

> This situation has.. no precedent as far as I can tell..

No, this has been going on for years. Vendors have been pushing malicious software through the Windows Update automatic driver installation since forever. MSI and Nahimic/A-Volute (this has watchdog daemon to instantly reinstall it as well as the main app protecting the daemon), the ASUS Armory Crate bullshit, the Lenovo garbage, which initially they only put into their own images, but then started force-installing via Windows Update, Gigabyte, ... the list is really long.

If you have to use Windows, you really absolutely should disable driver installation through Windows Update.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by motbus3 »

delusional wrote: post #82
motbus3 wrote: post #41

I am tired of this. LG is now on my blacklist alongside EA and Blizzard Entertainment for their anti consumer practices. I can't change them, I can't change policies about it. I can choose to not buy.

> Blizzard Entertainment You mean "Microsoft Xbox Activision Blizzard King Bethesda Mojang"? I wish you luck with your boycott.

People do whatever they want with their money. I think their products little matter when they are not good people. (And they are not even good products, with some exceptions)

I can't control the world. But I can share my opinion on the matter . I think as long as we accept this poor behaviour companies will have more and more incentives to do it. And worse than that, they will also keep attacking the good folks

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by warshinder »

throw0101a wrote: post #143
delta_p_delta_x wrote: post #6

Workaround: gpedit.msc Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Device Installation Prevent automatic download of applications associated with device metadata Set to enabled OK On home editions sans gpedit.msc: sysdm.cpl Hardware tab Click Device Installation Settings Under 'Do you want to automatically download manufacturers' apps for your devices?', select 'No' Save Changes

> On home editions sans gpedit.msc: I've managed to generally avoid running Windows (at home and at work) for a long time now, but if there was a situation where I needed to get a PC (at home?), is there a recommended least-sucky way of living with? Are there editions or scripts or a setup workflow that would make it suck less?

Don’t turn it on unless you need to print something.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by motbus3 »

lloydatkinson wrote: post #137
BatteryMountain wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've successfully avoided these companies the last 5 years. Gaming as a whole is dead for me, I just play a couple of old games now & then. The culture is toast too, not just bad games or expensive hardware. So not really losing much sleep over any of this. I have linux on all my machines, so I really only play the one's that perform well on linux. Haven't played online multiplayer games since ~2013. Many of us are l…

I'm still angry at how they ruined Overwatch

You mean how the stole the product you bought?

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by phendrenad2 »

All gaming brands try to install software with every driver update. AMD, Nvidia, Razer, Corsair, etc. The difference is LG made it silent, which is a big no-no. Pushback should be on LG, a respected consumer brand that should know better.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by internet2000 »

devttyeu wrote: post #20

This is so much worse that the title makes it out to be: 1. Your OS installs malware (technically manufacturers software) from a 3rd party vendor in background, zero user interaction 2. Happens as soon as you or anyone with physical access plug in a device into the HDMI port 3. That malware has internet and full system access, no sandboxing 4. It starts with every system boot 5. This software gets installed when you…

> This situation has.. no precedent as far as I can tell..

You got a lot of replies already, but there's so much precedent. Plugging a Logitech mouse installs a network capable, autolaunch capable, pop up app for at least the past 10 years. LG's thing seems grodier, but this has been common Windows-ism for a while.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by regexorcist »

CrimsonRain wrote: post #256
Gud wrote: post #146

Not surprised. My wife CONVINCED me to buy an LG tv instead of my typical dumb monitor. Now I get constant ads and a constant nagging of updates available, that will install more ads and spying features...

Update firmware. Turn off LIVE PLUS block internet for the tv from router Enjoy. That's what I have been doing for years.

Also don't agree with the optional policies, they can be unchecked if you already did. That disables a bunch of crap too.

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Post by dimgl »

Chaosvex wrote: post #266
kjs3 wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last one I remember is plugging a Razer mouse Oh, yeah. Bought this overpriced but heavily hyped Razer mouse and it wouldn't even work right until it had an internet connection. A MOUSE. I'd never encountered something so blatantly customer hostile in my life. Never even looked at another Razer product, never will, and will tell anyone who will listen that Razer is a terrible company full of objectively terrible…

Razer was always low quality garbage at premium prices. Gamer marketing for you.

What do you recommend instead? In my opinion the Razer mice are always superior for FPS.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by tosti »

ezst wrote: post #254
flaunf221 wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> why would you use such a sleazy company's product for daily driving Because alternatives are much worse or not available for scenarios people need. There, I've said the obvious.

That may sound obvious to you, but it's not for many, and this opinion of yours is shared by fewer and fewer people.

It should be a choice. They were or nearly were convicted for being a monopoly. For most users, they're not even aware there's a hardware/software distiction.

MS-Windows GUI has cashed on this unawareness since 95. "My Computer", "The computer needs to restart"... Being deliberately incorrect to add to the existing confusion.

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Post by [deleted] »

ufmace wrote: post #236
geon wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren’t ms completely dependent on consumer windows for mindshare? I doubt anyone would bother getting into programming with ms tech unless they just happened to run it on their desktop.

I don't think they are anymore. The vast majority of ordinary person computer/internet use has already moved to smartphones, tablets, smart TVs and other such devices. It seems nowadays many people don't even know the basics about how to use a desktop operating system.

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