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LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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And Razer, Logitech, nvidia and everyone else who has it's driver package accepted into WU. No, you can't have a "(o) just the driver" checkbox because... honestly there are a lot of reasons and the device manufacturers are the guys who demand that in the first place.

Razer mice are the worst because they are just HIDs and could work without any special driver at all! Also I don't need their whole suite on every Windows computer I plug my mouse in. I think most people would just configure their Razer mouse on one PC, save the settings in the firmware of the mouse itself (I guess, I've actually never used their driver suite) and then never touch their software again.

It's just crazy to me that a lot of keyboard manufacturers have basically standardized on VIA as their firmware which can be configured via WebUSB without installing any additional driver. But my mouse somehow needs a gigantic driver suite just to configure and save some settings? It's just madness.

I like Razer mice and their headsets, but I will never install any of their drivers. Ironically I feel more comfortable using Razer hardware on non-Windows devices than on Windows precisely because they don't support other operating systems.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

#43

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Sounds like this malware gets installed even if you don't manually install anything. > Connecting some LG monitors to a Windows PC may automatically install software that promotes McAfee subscriptions I too have a LG monitor, but haven't booted Windows in some days, guess I'll stay put in my Arch environment until they've fixed this shitshow.

But this assumes you plug in USBC .... Right? HDMI and display port can't....install over right?

I don't see any details in any of the texts I came across, but in theory the implementation could be that Windows sees the ID of the monitor once connected through any sort of connection, then when matching ID is found it installs the malware. Rather than the installer is sent from the monitor to the computer. Would make updates a lot easier, and if they really want to spread this malware, can activate it for a lot more monitors.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like this malware gets installed even if you don't manually install anything. > Connecting some LG monitors to a Windows PC may automatically install software that promotes McAfee subscriptions I too have a LG monitor, but haven't booted Windows in some days, guess I'll stay put in my Arch environment until they've fixed this shitshow.

But this assumes you plug in USBC .... Right? HDMI and display port can't....install over right?

Windows automatically tries to download and install drivers for some hardware you plug in, including monitors. That's what is happening here.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

#45
I think this is how they are going to make us pay rent for what we bought. They will make everything unusable unless you pay more and make some cuckoo TOS saying that you agree to be held in contempt if you circumvent their measurements.

Honestly, if we don't push it back hard, it will only get worse and worse. Why we were cancelling people if they used wrong pronouns and suddenly we got tired of doing the same with stuff that we all should agree on that is terrible.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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it's worth noting that the price of these monitors got cut in half due to this news -- great for the linux users out there

I don't feel like spending my money on some horrible corpo pulling out stuff like this, even if I've been using linux since 2006. Who can tell if they will do this to other OS in the future?

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

#47

Gamers Nexus have a video about this. Definitely worth a watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9uefFYe6bM

I'm wondering if we in Europe gets vastly different experience compared to Americans or elsewhere in the world. People complain about LG having ads everywhere in the monitors, displays and what not, but none of our LG products (bought and used in Spain) have any ads anywhere. I'm sitting here with a LG monitor and our main TV is a LG OLED TV, neither of them have ads anywhere, although I haven't booted Windows in a c…

Same here in the UK

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm wondering if we in Europe gets vastly different experience compared to Americans or elsewhere in the world. People complain about LG having ads everywhere in the monitors, displays and what not, but none of our LG products (bought and used in Spain) have any ads anywhere. I'm sitting here with a LG monitor and our main TV is a LG OLED TV, neither of them have ads anywhere, although I haven't booted Windows in a c…

In general, yes. But in case of LG TVs, they record your activities in EU too. You can opt out, but the settings has a very non-descriptive name ("live plus") and resets by itself when you are not looking. https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics/privacy/how-to-t...

Right, I'm wondering about the amount of ads though.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

#49

[Laughs in Linux/BSD]

HN doesn't like your tone and you are being down voted. But in general you are correct, Linux and bsd users are less affected by such shenanigans.

Short personal story:

I had a win10 machine were HP kept installing some "analytics" service. This happened even on a clean windows install so I guess they used the same delivery mechanism LG is using here. After having read the HP ToS (where they basically gave themselves unlimited rights to monitor anything I did on that machine), I decided to wipe the disk and install Linux.

But I guess it is just a matter of time before EU or US make spywares mandatory on Linux too. Chat control and age verification seems to be the first step towards that.

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