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Re: Show HN: IKEA Complexity Index

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post #5

Where did you pull this data from?

I think its AI sentiment generated data, no way someone needs 6.5h for a bed frame. I needed at best 2h...

It’s rather a very simple math formula based on the number of steps and parts.

I adjusted the formula by researching online what people reported as the time it took them to build some of the items. ie there’s a linear regression “fudge” factor - but it’s still an extremely simplified “model”, if you can call it that.

Re: Show HN: IKEA Complexity Index

#22
post #19

I don't believe this. The sundvik series feels way more complex than brimnes but wardrobes have the same complexity score.

Feel free to give me some real assembly time values - happy to adjust my very simple formula of steps x number of parts x fudge factor :)

Re: Show HN: IKEA Complexity Index

#23
post #15

I believe this table needs a column for the disassembly process as well. I bought and assembled a TUFFING Bunk Bed years ago, and even though the complexity of assembly is reported as 4644 on this web site (which is also suspiciously low), as far as I can tell the only way to disassemble it is to use an angle grinder.

the comments on ikea's site seem to agree with you - lots of extremely negative ones about the assembly

I did not do sentiment analysis on the comments (to modify my fudge factor mentioned elsewhere - which is the bulk of my complexity rating computation), but that could be a good next step..!

Re: Show HN: IKEA Complexity Index

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What's the assembly time based on?

IKEA in general is piss easy to assemble except for leveling stuff where you'd need a laser and often times another person. Some of provided tools (the famous L 6mm hex key made of cheese) and hardware (nails) tend to be very poor... and sometimes it'd need a visit to buy extra hardware - e.g. low-profile head, non-counter sunk screws to attach to the wall.

Repairing furniture or addressing mistakes tend to be fixable by a mix of wood shavings/dust and epoxy in most cases.

So the assembly would depend on previous experience, available tools, and free space.

Re: Show HN: IKEA Complexity Index

#26
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The time it takes to assemble Ikea furniture is very dependent on your experience with it, and if you're using an assembly driver or not.

> and if you're using an assembly driver or not Not a good idea on modern Ikea furniture that's basically engineered wood and cardboard. Way too easy to strip out the threads.

Any drill nowadays would have a clutch. Use it, so it limits the torque. It applies for pretty much any kind of work (e.g. including mounting intake manifold on a lawn-mower, but then it's likely to use a torque wrench too)

Re: Show HN: IKEA Complexity Index

#27
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The time it takes to assemble Ikea furniture is very dependent on your experience with it, and if you're using an assembly driver or not.

> and if you're using an assembly driver or not Not a good idea on modern Ikea furniture that's basically engineered wood and cardboard. Way too easy to strip out the threads.

Very true, I do it with regular screwdrivers but I watched people in the past ruthlessly overscrew and hammer stuff in, its not supposed to be done with force. My furniture so far survived 2 moves and 14 years with full disassembly and assembly in between..

These days I wouldn't recommend Ikea to anybody with the prices and build quality, Jysk is a good and cheap alternative in germany.

Re: Show HN: IKEA Complexity Index

#28
post #15

I believe this table needs a column for the disassembly process as well. I bought and assembled a TUFFING Bunk Bed years ago, and even though the complexity of assembly is reported as 4644 on this web site (which is also suspiciously low), as far as I can tell the only way to disassemble it is to use an angle grinder.

> use an angle grinder.

I do use wood glue on all dowel pins, so most stuff is assembly once only. Unless the furniture provides metal inserts for machine screws, I do not consider it disassembly material. It's likely to exhibit the spontaneous disassembly on its right own otherwise (or squeak soon enough)

Re: Show HN: IKEA Complexity Index

#29
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think its AI sentiment generated data, no way someone needs 6.5h for a bed frame. I needed at best 2h...

It’s rather a very simple math formula based on the number of steps and parts. I adjusted the formula by researching online what people reported as the time it took them to build some of the items. ie there’s a linear regression “fudge” factor - but it’s still an extremely simplified “model”, if you can call it that.

Very cool then, my personal experience and experience in general with assembling furniture could be different to what regular people who never did it before have, seen it with friends
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