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Re: The state of open source AI

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Speculation: open models is what will kill Anthropic and OpenAI. Hyperscalers can run the models without a licensing fee. Apple can make them smaller and put them on the device. The frontier models are an edge and a liability. They're astronomically expensive to train. Without them, their models will fade into obscurity. Their marketing depends on people believing the models are meaningfully different, as people have…

Open models are probably also comparatively astronomically expensive to train - just less so than the frontier models because they’re somewhat smaller, +/- the creators are more incentivised to focus on getting more from less compute because they’re have to, +/- they rely on distillation of the frontier models and this is more efficient. But efficiencies aside; creation of open models still requires a lot of money an…

Except: distillation.

It is not so strange that models from certain organizations are always a few months behind.

Re: The state of open source AI

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That's probably pretty likely, but if we're honest, are LLMs built and funded by a hostile Chinese authoritarian regime any more dangerous or harmful than LLMs built and funded by a hostile American authoritarian regime? China absolutely does not have my best interests at heart, but America's technofascism is probably more immediately dangerous and harmful. Americans genuinely have more to fear from America than Chin…

One big difference is that the US doesn't have much public record of using state espionage resources to steal industrial secrets to give domestic industry a leg up in the market, whereas CCP very much does. And while I use and love the open weight models, it seems likely to be pretty hard to prove conclusively that they have no reinforcement-learning-trained proclivity towards curling specific URLs if the topic happe…

The American industrial revolution is often cited as one such example.

The patent act of 1793 is still relevant today [0] and was established to protect Americans stealing British and European industrial trade secrets.

https://mysteriesofmankind.com/industrial-espionage-the-spie...

Re: The state of open source AI

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Who says it hasn't already? I've driven in a LOT of the USA. Sure Chicago, NYC, DC, LA, LV... They're all built up and feel modern. Try driving anywhere in the Midwest outside of the big cities. Dilapidated carcas buildings everywhere. Urban and rural blight. Only jobs are low paying service work. Its bleak. Like, really bad poverty as a disease bleak. And its crazy watching it too. They're ignorant (involuntatily),…

At risk of greatly oversimplifying American politics, it's truly impressive how good Democrats are at shooting themselves in the foot. That's why I personally believe Sanders and Mamdani have found so much success with the working class; they keep themselves separate from the Culture War slugfest that mainline Democrats either voluntarily engage in or let Republicans drag them into. IMO the vast majority of those "cu…

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Re: The state of open source AI

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is this something you actually tried?

It doesn't matter. Assume it's hyperbolic and the point still stands. Of course all the other models from everywhere else in the world will also refuse to engage on various topics so the point is hardly limited to china.

OpenAI, Gemini, and Anthropic models already refuse to engage on many topics.

Re: The state of open source AI

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It’s very difficult to be for the people and also get hundreds of millions of dollars from wealthy donors. That is the democratic party’s plight.

I'm not sure I understand what part of my post this is in reference to. I agree that the democratic party gets a _lot_ of money. Are you contrasting to something in my post, or agreeing? Appreciate clarification, I could also just be dumb today

I think the point is that most of Democrats' supposed positions on the working class, climate, inequality etc. are purely performative. Their actual policies are 99% the same as Republicans and they essentially just as corrupt and beholden to the wealth class.

Re: The state of open source AI

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A bold prediction. Phones have gigabytes today. There are famous laws of growth that put terabytes at just a few years away - perhaps 10 isn't too bad an estimate?

> Phones have gigabytes today. Phones have zero HBM today. > There are famous laws of growth that put terabytes at just a few years away I assume you're referring to Moore's law here, but if you are, it doesn't really apply to HBM in the same way, especially in a smartphone form factor where LPDDR is the only practical option due to heat and energy constraints, and a variety of architectural complexities specific to…

Phones with HBM are already in development, not that HBM is some sort of strict requirement.

Re: The state of open source AI

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Lost me here - I was there - I worked on open sourcing communicator at Netscape and starting Mozilla. We were the one company that tried to own it all, but were out spent and out maneuvered by a more insidious company. This totally misunderstands the situation and the history. Plus the “our CTO” and “CTO letter” at the start was too pretentious. For gods sake; CTOs are just engineers that aren’t worth trusting because they’ve either maneuvered their way to their seat or they are serving the investors on their knees. Any CTO worth a damn knows they aren’t worth a damn.

“”” We have been here before. Mozilla exists because one company tried to own the front door to the web, and an open community rose up to make sure it never could. Twenty-five years later, someone is running the same play. We bet on open the first time. Open won. Together, we can do it again. “””

Re: The state of open source AI

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The prose is, of course, LLM-generated. https://www.pangram.com/history/29a71663-e6b2-4db6-87bd-b943... I'd be curious to learn more about how/why executives come to sign their names to this kind of writing. Maybe it feels like a natural iteration of the pre-existing experience of signing one's name to an assistant's manuscript, or a press release from staff in Comms? I don't know execs who do this kind of thing, so…

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