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Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

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Ok. Let me try to spoil you. You are looking for this https://plotterusa.com And here is a review from Fatih Arslan at https://arslan.io/2025/02/24/plotter-notebook-system/

Their largest one, which is smaller than a standard piece of paper, starts at $200 and goes up to $270. For a notebook. With what might be proprietary refills. What.

Looks like a standard 6 ring binder and standard paper sizes. You can probably buy the refills from anywhere.

Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

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Another solution for this is a notebook with removable pages, you can scribble all you want and if you decide later you don’t need that page in this notebook you can take it out (toss it, store it, or reorganize to a different notebook) and add fresh paper as needed. It’s also handy to be able to reorder pages if you’re bouncing between purposes, and gives you the option to have a mix of papers if sometimes you want…

Yep im the same way. Tried lots of types, settled on the fabriano dot grid glued pages. Most of my pages are just this dirt style, but its also nice to sometimes rip out a page and these do so cleanly. Sometimes they fall apart... Thats okay, once i had a whole banker box full of notebooks the appeal of saving them all wore off. Now when theyre done theyre done.

Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

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I like this distinction “dirt notebook”. As someone who was never naturally good at taking notes, I’ve only later in life made it a consistent habit. That being said I’m realizing all of my notebooks of “dirt” notebooks. There’s no rhyme or reason to it. No consistent format. Just pure stream of consciousness trying to capture whatever was in my head at the moment, or whatever I’m trying to remember from a meeting or call or whatever.

Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

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> I can't seem to keep my notes messy. Eventually, I start structuring the notes, doing cleaner handwriting, adding a cover or some stickers

Is this a so-called humble brag? FYI my notebooks are messy, unorganized and dirty (from lying unprotected in my backpack). I rarely use it because I always lose the pen after each scribble.

Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

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I used to be much more precious about notebooks myself. I may have also found tricks or games to play to on myself to force myself to use them without fear of mucking them up with bad sketches or poorly organized ideas.

Eventually I got over it now and just use them as places to scribble ideas and don't care if it's ugly. I find that over the years I just started caring more about getting the thing I wanted to accomplish done than making sure I had a pristine record of the thoughts that led up to it. Maybe it's an age thing.

Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

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I've been trying binders instead of notebooks (especially the mini-binders from folks like Maruman). Binders allow you to easily remove and add pages (and tabs, dividers, etc). This gives you the satisfaction of making something aesthetically pleasing, while also knowing you can move a 'messy' page somewhere else.

Conventional wisdom is to use a bound notebook, as a court will discount reliability if pages can be removed without leaving a trace.

Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok. Let me try to spoil you. You are looking for this https://plotterusa.com And here is a review from Fatih Arslan at https://arslan.io/2025/02/24/plotter-notebook-system/

Their largest one, which is smaller than a standard piece of paper, starts at $200 and goes up to $270. For a notebook. With what might be proprietary refills. What.

It's just A6-sized. You can get a soft A6 binder including refills for a tenth that price.

Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

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I've been trying binders instead of notebooks (especially the mini-binders from folks like Maruman). Binders allow you to easily remove and add pages (and tabs, dividers, etc). This gives you the satisfaction of making something aesthetically pleasing, while also knowing you can move a 'messy' page somewhere else.

Ok. Let me try to spoil you. You are looking for this https://plotterusa.com And here is a review from Fatih Arslan at https://arslan.io/2025/02/24/plotter-notebook-system/

this is not a new system... my father had it 20 years ago, sold for dirt cheap by the local stationary shop (not leather of course).

Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

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Whenever I get a new notebook, I immediately scribble on the front page before I have a chance to stop myself. There. It's tainted and imperfect. And then I've given myself permission to make messy notes, and jot down just whatever, rather than treating it like some museum-grade archive.

I’ve always had an aversion to people that make neat notes. Anecdotally my experience in high school was that people that made clean notes and spent a lot of time on them always sucked at actual academics- like doing well on tests and intuitive understanding.

My college notes were OCD-grade tidy and organized, and I did alright. I get what you mean, though. I've seen plenty of examples of people who obsess over making pretty notes that don't convey much information.

Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

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I tend to have many notebooks going at any one time, each with their own slightly different uses. But my trick for keeping things 'dirty' for my main notebook is that I burn it when I'm finished with it. I'll copy out anything I need to maintain to other, more permanent, places, but in the end it will be gone. Why not be messy, it will be ash soon enough!
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