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Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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This is a pretty clear violation of the First Amendment, but the current SCOTUS doesn't care about the Constitution. Multiple conservative SCOTUS justices openly admit to taking bribes from parties with cases before them.

I believe the current precedent is that porn is not speech.

Porn is speech. This has been litigated several times by SCOTUS.

Obscenity is not speech.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

#152

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This is a pretty clear violation of the First Amendment, but the current SCOTUS doesn't care about the Constitution. Multiple conservative SCOTUS justices openly admit to taking bribes from parties with cases before them.

I believe the current precedent is that porn is not speech.

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Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a pretty clear violation of the First Amendment, but the current SCOTUS doesn't care about the Constitution. Multiple conservative SCOTUS justices openly admit to taking bribes from parties with cases before them.

I believe the current precedent is that porn is not speech.

Wrong. Porn is considered protected speech unless it is considered “obscene” (which is an incredibly difficult bar to meet), and even possession of obscene material in one’s home is protected.

C’mon, people, these issues are trivial to look up the facts about. There’s no excuse for ignorance here. https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/obscenity-and-pornog...

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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> Even people with mothers shouldn't travel to Texas. You know real, friendly, generous humans live in Texas, right?

Real, friendly, generous humans live in Haiti, too. That doesn't make it a good travel destination.

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Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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The idea that a state court in one particular state can enforce such an absurd law against a company that likely has no business operations or servers in the state is ridiculous. I don't care if you like the porn site in question or not, or condone or endorse its content. This is a slippery slope towards every regional tinpot dictator legislature attempting to censor the internet by having an entity's domain name rev…

> The idea that a state court in one particular state can enforce such an absurd law against a company that likely has no business operations or servers in the state is ridiculous.

I agree. California has been doing this since 2022 [1][2] and it's equally indefensible.

States should not be allowed to wield their size and influence as a cudgel against other states and jurisdictions.

[1] https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtm...

[2] https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/ghost-gun-crackdown-a...

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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So he managed to block the site globally for not forcibly violating the privacy of its users with mandatory age verification. The US court system really needs to do something about this, and overturn Free Speech Coalition v. Paxton in favour of Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union.

FWIW, the site isn't blocked globally. They just moved to a new domain. I do generally agree that local governments trying to forcefully exert their influence beyond their jurisdiction is deeply problematic. It wouldn't even be possible to host a website on the internet if this becomes normalized, due to being held to thousands of contradicting standards. At most Texas should have the authority to tell Texas ISPs to…

Allowing states to force ISPs to block websites might be an even bigger can of worms.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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> The GDPR doesn't try to remove anything from the global internet GDPR Article 17 expressly requires the removal of things from the global internet > You're free to not serve your site in the EU Geoblocking is functionally impossible

GDPR Article 17 expressly requires the removal _of your personal data_ from the internet _upon your request_, which is very different from a US state trying to remove a website hosted in and run by a company incorporated in another country. And geo blocking may be functionally impossible but the law cares about intent and actions, not if you prevented someone who used a VPN or lied about their location from using you…

> which is very different

If you say so

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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Just for clarity's sake, what is "the Internet", and how does "the United States" have "control" over it? https://youtu.be/iDbyYGrswtg?si=AL91MHC5q5yg2jnA

The USA controls ICANN and IANA, who together control the DNS root, as well as controlling all so-called "generic" TLDs through ICANN. Only some country TLDs are actually outside of US jurisdiction, as many of the delegate to USA-based registry providers. ICANN/IANA still control whether or not those countries even get to have domains, so the USA could decide that if the Netherlands wouldn't block motherless-dot-nl t…

ARIN is also a US non-profit corporation, located in Virginia, but the people who run RIPE and APNIC and AFRINIC might disagree that the Internet is entirely "controlled" by Americans.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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A federal court, sure. But this was a state court ruling on a state law.

My other comment in this thread has citations demonstrating SCOTUS support and approval for Texas to enforce these laws, as well as links to statue trackers showing where states and countries have implemented these age validation requirements for social media and adult content sites. It was a choice by Motherless and their holding company, Kick Online, to egregiously ignore Texas law; the law has been found sound by…

Importantly "egregious" is also opinion.

The other point of view is that they "very reasonably" ignored Texas law because they're not in Texas.

The Supreme Court found that the law was valid, but that ruling doesn't mean it necessarily applies in a situation like this.

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