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Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by hadlock »

nvme0n1p1 wrote: post #19
quantified wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably cuts back on some of the epic waste on the consumer side. Hope that ripples to cutting down waste throughout the system. Paying for stuff that isn't consumed is by definition waste.

Consumers are the last group I would blame. https://www.usda.gov/about-food/food-safety/food-loss-and-wa... > food waste is estimated at ... 133 billion pounds ... in 2010. USA population in 2010 was 311M. 133B / 311M = 427 pounds per person. I sincerely doubt the average consumer throws away 427 pounds of fresh food in a year.

When I got married our food waste probably tripled. My food waste as a single guy was significantly less than married. When I had kids it probably tripled again. Much like a horse to water, you cannot explain to a 3 year old that if they don't eat all the banannas before tomorrow, they will go bad. We probably throw out 1-2 lbs of fruit a week, which is ~100 lbs a year right there.

The kid might have ate 2 lbs of blueberries a week for six months, but surprise, they hate them now!

I can't count the number of half-full glasses of milk I've found in the last month, probably averaging 1 per day. Kids are extremely inefficient eaters unless it is covered in sugar or chocolate.

Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by stavros »

eth0up wrote: post #37
stavros wrote: post #10

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Haven't you heard? Everything is real these days. Now I have the full picture, and it's load-bearing. Here's the smoking gun, a belt-and-suspenders approach to article-writing. It's not writing, it's poetry.

You are right on one thing.*1 But I need to push back on something.*2 The claim that everything is real is too broad and I'd urge caution in making such a blanket assumption. It would be epistemically reckless of me to agree here. It is also possible that the pattern you are seeing is simply a result of users absorbing the vernacular of LLMs. And calling it poetry is not supported by the actual content and I don't th…

Pretty good, but it's missing the punchiness of "we wrote ten articles, and here's what we've learned: every tip, every misstep, every verbal tic".

I hate how it's everywhere now. Even my coworkers speak like this.

Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by hombre_fatal »

anukin wrote: post #16

People underestimate the impact of glp1 drugs on this. They should also correlate with decline in fast food consumption.

I doubt it. I'd wager the opposite: we like to overestimate the most interesting explanations vs. the boring ones.

My sedentary, calorie dense, UberEats-at-2am 5000 calorie lifestyle isn't why I'm fat -- it's the "seed oils".

Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by apercu »

hadlock wrote: post #41
nvme0n1p1 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consumers are the last group I would blame. https://www.usda.gov/about-food/food-safety/food-loss-and-wa... > food waste is estimated at ... 133 billion pounds ... in 2010. USA population in 2010 was 311M. 133B / 311M = 427 pounds per person. I sincerely doubt the average consumer throws away 427 pounds of fresh food in a year.

When I got married our food waste probably tripled. My food waste as a single guy was significantly less than married. When I had kids it probably tripled again. Much like a horse to water, you cannot explain to a 3 year old that if they don't eat all the banannas before tomorrow, they will go bad. We probably throw out 1-2 lbs of fruit a week, which is ~100 lbs a year right there. The kid might have ate 2 lbs of blu…

Buy frozen fruit?

Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by apercu »

reactordev wrote: post #34
qdotme wrote: post #26

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1.5lb / day? I'd wager it's quite equally in thirds, would love to see the data. I'd believe 0.5lbs/day/person in my household - cook enough for everyone to have seconds, but most of the time it's tossed (sometimes after some time spent in the fridge/freezer hoping for a reheat); stuff bought but inedible (chicken bones, etc).. I'd believe similar in the distribution pipeline (just look at how much stuff are in the d…

No food gets thrown out in my house. We have trash from plastic and paper but food is consumed, by somebody. If it hits the expiration date then it’s today’s quick meal or dog food. I try not to throw away anything that is edible.

Or composted to feed my garden. I hardly throw out any garbage.

Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by qdotme »

reactordev wrote: post #34
qdotme wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1.5lb / day? I'd wager it's quite equally in thirds, would love to see the data. I'd believe 0.5lbs/day/person in my household - cook enough for everyone to have seconds, but most of the time it's tossed (sometimes after some time spent in the fridge/freezer hoping for a reheat); stuff bought but inedible (chicken bones, etc).. I'd believe similar in the distribution pipeline (just look at how much stuff are in the d…

No food gets thrown out in my house. We have trash from plastic and paper but food is consumed, by somebody. If it hits the expiration date then it’s today’s quick meal or dog food. I try not to throw away anything that is edible.

Probably was that way before we got married and had a kid. And before our dog started getting older and we needed to watch what she eats.

Now the notion of "cook fresh every day" is a thing (rather than reheats), we try to do keep leftovers but eventually we run out of space for them.

Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by saltcured »

dyauspitr wrote: post #40
Avicebron wrote: post #3

They should just lead with people don't have any money to buy things because wages aren't increasing to match living expenses. It cuts back some of the fig leaves

Meat is like $30/lb. What a joke, I see almost no one at the butcher counter in grocery stores anymore.

One of the most common interactions I witness at our local supermarket butcher counter is the guy explaining to yet another customer that the advertised weekly special sold out before lunch a couple days prior.

Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by mrob »

hadlock wrote: post #41
nvme0n1p1 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consumers are the last group I would blame. https://www.usda.gov/about-food/food-safety/food-loss-and-wa... > food waste is estimated at ... 133 billion pounds ... in 2010. USA population in 2010 was 311M. 133B / 311M = 427 pounds per person. I sincerely doubt the average consumer throws away 427 pounds of fresh food in a year.

When I got married our food waste probably tripled. My food waste as a single guy was significantly less than married. When I had kids it probably tripled again. Much like a horse to water, you cannot explain to a 3 year old that if they don't eat all the banannas before tomorrow, they will go bad. We probably throw out 1-2 lbs of fruit a week, which is ~100 lbs a year right there. The kid might have ate 2 lbs of blu…

>they don't eat all the banannas before tomorrow, they will go bad

This one specifically has a good solution:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_bread

Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by entropyie »

hadlock wrote: post #41
nvme0n1p1 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consumers are the last group I would blame. https://www.usda.gov/about-food/food-safety/food-loss-and-wa... > food waste is estimated at ... 133 billion pounds ... in 2010. USA population in 2010 was 311M. 133B / 311M = 427 pounds per person. I sincerely doubt the average consumer throws away 427 pounds of fresh food in a year.

When I got married our food waste probably tripled. My food waste as a single guy was significantly less than married. When I had kids it probably tripled again. Much like a horse to water, you cannot explain to a 3 year old that if they don't eat all the banannas before tomorrow, they will go bad. We probably throw out 1-2 lbs of fruit a week, which is ~100 lbs a year right there. The kid might have ate 2 lbs of blu…

I have two kids and this is pure bollox. They'll eat what they are given if they are hungry enough. Or eat the leftovers yourself. Cook the fruit and make compote. We never throw out edible food, virtually zero waste. Just make an effort.
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