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Re: Lobste.rs is now running on SQLite

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Post by vovavili »

OutOfHere wrote: post #64
xtracto wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dont remember why I was kind of barred from lobsters , but I applaud all this behavior you mentioned. In the end, that's how normal clickes of friends/interest groups form (or formed 30 years ago in real life.) If you got into my group of death metal people, and suddenly started talking about Oasis... we would invite you to get out haha. Same with patriots.win . They may be a group of right wing biggots, but hey, t…

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So they basically reinvented reddit.

Re: Lobste.rs is now running on SQLite

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Post by qsera »

cdrini wrote: post #62
rickcarlino wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Invitation-only is the future of online communities. Lobsters still has a pulse because you need to know someone to get in and it’s a bad look if you invite annoying people.

> Invitation-only is the future of online communities. This feels antithetical/dystopian/elitist compared to what online communities are, for me. I think it's ok for some communities to be like this, but I don't think it's the future of online communities.

I think it is better to have some elitist communities, than to drag everyone down to some least common denomination...

I think that was one of the big mistakes/oversight that came with the Internet..

Re: Lobste.rs is now running on SQLite

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Post by NetOpWibby »

gspr wrote: post #10
tetris11 wrote: post #2

Oh wow. Off-topic but quite refreshing to see a site not absolutely plastered in AI posts

It's a wonderful place. It feels like HN, but with the Silicon Valley attitude dialed way way way down, and with a much narrower scope (politics, economics and entrepreneurship are all off-topic, for example).

The SV attitude isn't there but there's active assholes who wield their moderation weirdly. I deactivated my account before deactivations were added to the logs and I don't remember what made me quit. I've largely avoided Lobsters since.

I joined their IRC channel last week and it's been rather chill.

I do like the invite-only nature of the site though, keeps quality high...while making some folks tyrannical.

Re: Lobste.rs is now running on SQLite

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Post by Aurornis »

xtracto wrote: post #37
Aurornis wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lobste.rs is very anti-AI. They force any LLM topic to be tagged with “vibecoding” even when the majority of LLM posts are not about vibecoding. AI posts are usually the most commented on. Linus Torvalds’ comments saying that LLMs are actually useful is still on the front page, tagged as vibecoding, and has a lot of comments from people mostly disagreeing with him. Lobste.rs is more of a monoculture than Hacker News.…

I dont remember why I was kind of barred from lobsters , but I applaud all this behavior you mentioned. In the end, that's how normal clickes of friends/interest groups form (or formed 30 years ago in real life.) If you got into my group of death metal people, and suddenly started talking about Oasis... we would invite you to get out haha. Same with patriots.win . They may be a group of right wing biggots, but hey, t…

> I dont remember why I was kind of barred from lobsters , but I applaud all this behavior you mentioned.

Some serious cognitive dissonance here.

I think a lot of people like this idea of a close-knit clique of like minded people, but the communities tend to pick up toxic qualities where membership becomes a game in itself. Anyone who doesn’t fall in line with the established in-crowd gets pushed out via the Byzantine rules that the in-crowd uses to maintain their position.

I still visit and participate, but I’m realistic about what it is. There is some value there, but you have to navigate it like a small subreddit where the moderator keeps tight control over what can be discussed and indirectly or directly influences the allowable opinions on the site. I really liked their original ideas about having an open moderation log and clear rules, but I’ve seen more than enough questionable moderation decisions and selective application of the rules to accept that it’s not as pure as I thought it was going to be.

Re: Lobste.rs is now running on SQLite

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Post by cdrini »

xtracto wrote: post #37
Aurornis wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lobste.rs is very anti-AI. They force any LLM topic to be tagged with “vibecoding” even when the majority of LLM posts are not about vibecoding. AI posts are usually the most commented on. Linus Torvalds’ comments saying that LLMs are actually useful is still on the front page, tagged as vibecoding, and has a lot of comments from people mostly disagreeing with him. Lobste.rs is more of a monoculture than Hacker News.…

I dont remember why I was kind of barred from lobsters , but I applaud all this behavior you mentioned. In the end, that's how normal clickes of friends/interest groups form (or formed 30 years ago in real life.) If you got into my group of death metal people, and suddenly started talking about Oasis... we would invite you to get out haha. Same with patriots.win . They may be a group of right wing biggots, but hey, t…

Hmmmm interesting analogy! I'm not too sure if cliques apply as much to online communities. Cliques are usually exclusionary not because people don't meet the criteria/scope of the clique, but by scale constraints, eg how many people someone can maintain a close relationship with. Online communities are kind of sufficiently different because of this scale. They can grow basically indefinitely, and are only limited by the stated scope/criteria of the community.

Re: Lobste.rs is now running on SQLite

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Post by jdiff »

pudgywalsh wrote: post #69
homebrewer wrote: post #6

It's been fairly unstable recently, pages sometimes render for several seconds which I've never seen under MariaDB. Used to be instantaneous, always. Sometimes (maybe 5% or less) the request won't render at all, and you get a browser error page. Today they ran into this bug, lost a bunch of voting data, and went into read-only mode for several hours: https://github.com/rails/rails/pull/57128 I wonder how much of this…

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Yes, a pox on othersite, all hail currentsite.

Re: Lobste.rs is now running on SQLite

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Post by NetOpWibby »

OutOfHere wrote: post #64
xtracto wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dont remember why I was kind of barred from lobsters , but I applaud all this behavior you mentioned. In the end, that's how normal clickes of friends/interest groups form (or formed 30 years ago in real life.) If you got into my group of death metal people, and suddenly started talking about Oasis... we would invite you to get out haha. Same with patriots.win . They may be a group of right wing biggots, but hey, t…

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Ironic, considering why Lobsters exists in the first place.

Re: Lobste.rs is now running on SQLite

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Post by pudgywalsh »

tverbeure wrote: post #57
rickcarlino wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Invitation-only is the future of online communities. Lobsters still has a pulse because you need to know someone to get in and it’s a bad look if you invite annoying people.

I wish lobste.rs would be a tiny bit easier to get access to. Some of my blog posts have been discussed there and every time I try to get access, I can’t get past their IRC stuff. As in: I just don’t understand how IRC works…

You should overlay a banner on your blog when they send you an HTTP Referer explaining their nonsense. Maybe then they'll get the message.

Then again, maybe they like the ability to critique your posts without you being able to rebut their opinions. It's an effective tactic in online echo chambers.

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