Interesting that the total removal flights have not really gone up by much compared with the rhetoric coming out of the Trump administration.
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Just call them what they are: totalitarian-authoritarian personalities, whose roots lie deep in the desire to be free of the perceived "filth of others". The word for that is "fascist."
Fascism is a loaded word that will get completely negated by glib idiocy. Totalitarian-authoritarian personality is more fitting, because in fact as a personality it can arise in any individual - not just those wearing brown shirts and marching around in jackboots, seeking conformity with a clean ideal. Totalitarian-authoritarianism is a meme - a kind of virus, which can be just as easily discarded as it can infiltra…
It's a fair point that it's become one of those words that doesn't really _mean_ anything anymore in common discourse. Like Marxism. For all intents and purposes, Marxism is basically "anything I don't like that's left of center."
I mean, anyone who claims with any level of seriousness that Democrats are Marxist have _zero_ clue what that means.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fascism is a loaded word that will get completely negated by glib idiocy. Totalitarian-authoritarian personality is more fitting, because in fact as a personality it can arise in any individual - not just those wearing brown shirts and marching around in jackboots, seeking conformity with a clean ideal. Totalitarian-authoritarianism is a meme - a kind of virus, which can be just as easily discarded as it can infiltra…
Or crypto fascist; that’ll have them threatening to sock you in the face if Buckley’s any example.
Or, just identify it as a personality - a facade, a facsimile, a fake being put in place to shield from perceived filth.
Anyone is capable of manifesting this personality. Anyone is also capable, of replacing it with something else. Calling someone a fascist tends to lock them in an immutable argument - calling out their fake personality, drops the shield and it turns to dust.
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> It prioritizes the state and nation over the individual, demanding total loyalty to a dictatorial leader, and relying on the violent suppression of opposition, strict social regimentation, and intense militarism. Wasn't Trump elected democratically? Also pretty sure opposition is not violently suppressed, unless they are throwing rocks or blocking roads. Though the police force does have a bit of a hint of militari…
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#15Evil as ICE no doubt is, I think the framing as "shuffles" to separate families and undermine due process as the intention is likely wrong even if that's a side-effect.
If you had to fill 20 flights going to various countries you'd quickly realizing that the people going to say India are all over the place. So what do you do? You run a hub and spoke model just like airlines do. And that's exactly what the data shows...a low number of specific airports with large number of intl outbound removals...and tons of country internal transfers. Hub and Spoke.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fascism is a loaded word that will get completely negated by glib idiocy. Totalitarian-authoritarian personality is more fitting, because in fact as a personality it can arise in any individual - not just those wearing brown shirts and marching around in jackboots, seeking conformity with a clean ideal. Totalitarian-authoritarianism is a meme - a kind of virus, which can be just as easily discarded as it can infiltra…
It's a fair point that it's become one of those words that doesn't really _mean_ anything anymore in common discourse. Like Marxism. For all intents and purposes, Marxism is basically "anything I don't like that's left of center." I mean, anyone who claims with any level of seriousness that Democrats are Marxist have _zero_ clue what that means.
I think the issue is more that there is so much loaded emotion in the image of a 'real fascist' that you're just adding another layer to the totalitarian-authoritarian personality, which is itself utterly fake.
Cut to the bone - point out that it's just a personality they're inventing. It's not really who they are. It's just a cowardly shield they're wearing because they are afraid.
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#17Interesting that the total removal flights have not really gone up by much compared with the rhetoric coming out of the Trump administration.
I guess what we don't know is how many people are on these flights, before or after Trump.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Just call them what they are: totalitarian-authoritarian personalities, whose roots lie deep in the desire to be free of the perceived "filth of others". The word for that is "fascist."
Fascism is a loaded word that will get completely negated by glib idiocy. Totalitarian-authoritarian personality is more fitting, because in fact as a personality it can arise in any individual - not just those wearing brown shirts and marching around in jackboots, seeking conformity with a clean ideal. Totalitarian-authoritarianism is a meme - a kind of virus, which can be just as easily discarded as it can infiltra…
>Sure, boot out the fascists if you feel that is keeping you un-clean. But in so doing, you will establish your own totalitarian-authoritarian personality. The key is not to resist - it is futile - but rather, instead, replace. The solution to any totalitarian order is simply to build another one, right on top.
Oh, that's what's happening here. The only real fascists are the people opposed to fascism. OK.
My bad, I didn't see the game. Made the mistake of answering in good faith. Carry on.
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#19Evil as ICE no doubt is, I think the framing as "shuffles" to separate families and undermine due process as the intention is likely wrong even if that's a side-effect. If you had to fill 20 flights going to various countries you'd quickly realizing that the people going to say India are all over the place. So what do you do? You run a hub and spoke model just like airlines do. And that's exactly what the data shows.…
You wouldn’t need such massive deportation system and thus optimizing it into hub and spoke if you had due process - most deportations are self deportations people sign under the duress of the conditions ICE put them into, and thus no due process.
What we have here is a buildout of the due process violation system not a due process implementation system.
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#20Why are so many flights out of Albuquerque NM, it’s more than all the flights out of Texas combined. It also seems like places like Guatemala and Honduras get more than one flight per day.
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