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Re: Designing emoji for the way we communicate today

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I was hoping they had standardized how emoji look across platforms. You can't really do this. Or, rather, it's already been done, but people choose not to do this. Emoji are just unicode characters. How they're displayed depends on the font used. Everyone could choose to use the same emoji font across platforms or apps, but they don't. The one announced here is open source, for instance, but there's no way Apple is…

> You can't really do this. "We've agreed with Apple to use their emoji glyphs on Android by default regardless of font, unless overriden by the user. We understand users might prefer the current designs, and we are proud of the work our team has done, but we believe that consistent communication is more important, and individual users can always enable the override to get the old look back." > Everyone could choose…

> > Everyone could choose to use the same emoji font across platforms or apps, but they don't.

> Yeah, that's the problem. We can't rely on every user going out of the way to drive adoption, it has to be done centrally.

Well by "everyone" I meant platform companies, app makers, and website designers. There's literally no way you'll get them to agree on a font choice.

> "We've agreed with Apple to use their emoji glyphs on Android by default regardless of font, unless overriden by the user".

First you'd have to get Apple to license their emoji font, presumably open source and freely available if you truly want it to be standardized across platforms. Have they ever open sourced a font? Or get Apple to agree to use someone else's font as the system default. Have they ever done that?

Second, if you forbid app developers from choosing an emoji font, the Facebooks of the world are just going to work around you by stripping out the emoji and manually inserting theirs in. Somewhat ironically, by ignoring the platform emoji font, which can lead to some jarring text rendering if you're used to the system font, apps like Facebook are fulfilling your dream of standardized unicode across platforms...but of course, only for users of their apps.

Third, I think you really underestimate the fundamental disagreements here. The Unicode Technical Committee has a working group to try to improve unicode interoperability, and victories are on the level of getting vendors to agree if the standard for the Lotus emoji should mention that it shouldn't include a lillypad (they decided no[1]). They're working on this, but it's never going to be what you want.

In any case, I understand what you're saying and I wasn't dismissing the fact that the precise emoji design can influence why you used that emoji at all, which gets lost in the translation to another emoji font.

[1] https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2025/25230-esr-report-utc185.pdf

Re: Designing emoji for the way we communicate today

#53
post #2

Does anyone know _where_ these supposed 4,000 OBJ files are open-sourced? They don't seem to be in the Noto Emoji GitHub repo, nor linked anywhere in the article.

I couldn't find anything easier.

Seems like they're trying to tease excitement for new emoji in the next Android release (there was also an earlier linkless post in May[1]), so I'm assuming they don't want anyone scooping them and will push to the Noto repo on or after the day of release.

Seems like the post really should at least have used a future tense for "handing over raw .OBJ files to the community".

[1] https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android...

Re: Designing emoji for the way we communicate today

#54
For what is worth, the fluent emojis from Microsoft, also named Segoe UI Emoji, have a 2D and 3D versions. They are beautiful! Although I'm not sure if the 3D ones are just complex vector images made to simulate depth with clever gradients and shadows, or were actually 3D rendered. I even saw some animations of them somewhere. Super cute

Re: Designing emoji for the way we communicate today

#56

The best emoji for the way we communicate today would be to revert the water pistol back to a real gun.

Glaring ‘omissions’ are also breasts and penis emojis. Maybe even one representing sexual intercourse. You’ll find they are quite central to human culture.

Re: Designing emoji for the way we communicate today

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Emojis are more of a unicode standard, they can be re-implemented with various themes to suit modern design trends. There's nothing wrong with redesigning your emojis to fit with the rest of your OS like you would with a system typeface.

Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should. Approximately nobody thought Google’s current emoji family needed a total overhaul, stop breaking our pattern recognition for no reason other than your designers are bored and don’t have enough real work to do.

> Approximately nobody thought Google’s current emoji family needed a total overhaul

According to who, a sample size of you?

I don't love their current emojis. The older, flat "blob" style was much better, and if I had my druthers we'd be getting a 3D remaster of those.

> stop breaking our pattern recognition

OS updates will come all the same, it's your job to select and enforce a style that you prefer. If not, your emojis will be like system fonts; outside of your control, changed at the whims of your OEM. And we all know that Apple and Google love breaking your muscle memory.

Re: Designing emoji for the way we communicate today

#58
post #46

This article seems fairly uninformative since, as others have pointed out, there's no visualization or comparison of the full emoji set and no link to see it. They just show a few example images and have some (AI-enhanced?) prose that doesn't actually say very much. This article https://9to5google.com/2026/05/12/android-17-emoji-redesign/ has a larger (2d image) comparison grid with several dozen examples and an A/B…

When will people learn that old/new comparisons should go left to right for people that read left to right?

Re: Designing emoji for the way we communicate today

#59
post #46

This article seems fairly uninformative since, as others have pointed out, there's no visualization or comparison of the full emoji set and no link to see it. They just show a few example images and have some (AI-enhanced?) prose that doesn't actually say very much. This article https://9to5google.com/2026/05/12/android-17-emoji-redesign/ has a larger (2d image) comparison grid with several dozen examples and an A/B…

When will people learn that old/new comparisons should go left to right for people that read left to right?

Personally, I read English in the boustophedron style. Sometimes it's the only way to unlock those Satanic back-masked messages!

Re: Designing emoji for the way we communicate today

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Emoji are such a terrible idea. What it means depends entirely on what the emoji designer wants.

There was an article shared here by emojipedia that showed, besides the obvious gun emoji turning into a toy gun and then back into a gun, subtle differences between designs changing the MEANING of a message on the internet.

Can you imagine if you write a word like "imagine" that changes meaning depending on what font the user has installed? It's probably a nightmare for preservation as well. You can't record the text, you have to record a screenshot of the emoji because in 50 years who knows what it's going to look like!

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