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Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

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Post by mistakevin »

mkl wrote: post #173
mistakevin wrote: post #123

I've been working on https://notebooker.ai if anyone is interested in giving some feedback. I tried to post a Show HN yesterday with details about how I built it, but was auto-flagged and not sure what rules I broke. Everything that I've built on top of open-notebook, like the plugin system for your own "creators" (aka, podcasts, infographics, etc) is at https://github.com/Notebooker-ai plus a Cloudflare Worker AI de…

The rules are here (linked at the top of the Show HN page): https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html I agree it's likely the sign-up barrier, but also the button says "Open the web app" and then it doesn't open the web app. You can email the mods for advice/info on this sort of thing (Contact link at the bottom).

Does "Open the web app" not just redirect you to https://app.notebooker.ai?

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

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Post by d4rkp4ttern »

windenntw wrote: post #174
d4rkp4ttern wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me: Ok so I'm going on a walk. I'll dump a link to a Hacker News discussion about an article. You have to read the article and the discussion and walk me thru all the interesting details, nugget by nugget, and move on when I'm ready for the next piece. ChatGPT Live: ok, Great show me the link, I'm waiting. (I paste the link) Me: Ok I pasted it. Now go. ==== For the Socratic quiz I say: I want to understand this more…

Thats an excellent idea. I've created https://gemini.google.com/gem/17xMogBqRSc2AtdCC-WRfObgHcceD0... and tested it with a couple conversations and it works great :)

Nice, it works for discussing concepts baked into the LLM but fails when you want it to read contents of an article or do web search. ChatGPT Live doesn’t have this limitation. Their Voice mode did have this limitation, but the Live mode released a couple weeks ago works exactly as you’d want, with link-following and web search

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

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Post by AbstractH24 »

d4rkp4ttern wrote: post #180
siquick wrote: post #126

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There is actually an interrupt mode in NotebookLM now. Overall I've found it the best AI product Google have. Only complaint I have about it is the hyper positive US corporate accents get pretty annoying pretty quickly. The realtime voice in ChatGPT is excellent, the newer model is a big step up too.

Too much friction in notebookLM - several minutes to make a podcast, and they disappear after a while, and the interrupt feature is super-janky.

> Too much friction in notebookLM

This was my main problem with it. Loved it otherwise, but the lack of an API or other automation so I could dump stuff in it and have a podcast ready to download and listen to on my subway ride made me turn away.

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

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Post by ramses0 »

TitaRusell wrote: post #154
eterm wrote: post #76

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I thought that was satire but I've googled it and you're not even joking.

And I bet marketeers got paid a lot of money to come up with those.

Mitch Hedberg... "I want to get a job at the Kitchen Appliance Naming Institute: Refrigerator, Toaster, Blender.. you just say say what it does, then you add '-er' What's this thing do? It keeps shit fresh. Well that's a fresher. I'm goin on break."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lwpS5M7hgA

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

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Post by _doctor_love »

d4rkp4ttern wrote: post #46

When notebookLM was new, it was interesting to listen to the podcasts. Then the novelty wore off, and I wanted something where I can interact with the podcasters but it was janky as hell. My current “audio-learning” hack is ChatGPT Live which has become shockingly good after being awful compared to Claude Voice (Let’s not even talk about Gemini voice which is still bad). I go on a walk and dump a paper or article lin…

I like the podcast features still for getting an overview or orientation on a new topic where I know I need a big context dump before I can begin to do anything under my own speed.

I have tried the "walk and talk" pattern with AI, and it's okay, but I find that it can be kind of janky if the network connection isn't very good. And I find it very frustrating to use still in terms of how the interrupt feature works. For example, if I'm out hiking and there's even a little bit of wind, the voice mode of ChatGPT and Gemini both will think that I'm done talking and begin responding.

In fairness to the AI vendors, I imagine that this is a very difficult thing to get right. Humans have a very natural sense of flow in conversation, and knowing when a speaker is done talking and it's appropriate to begin responding.

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

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Post by UncleOxidant »

satwikhebbar wrote: post #149
UncleOxidant wrote: post #82

My problem with NotebookLM was that you had to give it URLs or docs, you couldn't just have it search for docs and then incorporate them into your research.

I used it a couple of days back and they did have a search integration to pull in references. You may want to try this again.

Oh, good. They did add a search capability. It was kind of odd how before NotebookLM wasn't well integrated with Google search at all.

Re: NotebookLM is now Gemini Notebook

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Post by anon0834 »

mistakevin wrote: post #181
mkl wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The rules are here (linked at the top of the Show HN page): https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html I agree it's likely the sign-up barrier, but also the button says "Open the web app" and then it doesn't open the web app. You can email the mods for advice/info on this sort of thing (Contact link at the bottom).

Does "Open the web app" not just redirect you to https://app.notebooker.ai ?

No, it redirects to a sign up / login page.
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