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Apple targets dozens of OpenAI employees with legal letters

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The car that has sold out in almost every market outside the US?

Aren't there like a hundred of them? And yeah, sure, it'll obviously be a collector's item. Provides no evidence to this discussion.

A hundred? That's a big run for Ferrari isn't it?

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OpenAI only exists due to the theft of content created by others. If Apple’s accusations prove to be true, it just means that OpenAI is consistent.

I think that it's quite clear in the digital era that you can't steal bits that are free to copy.

I think it's quite clear that only applies to corporations. Workers will still go to prison.

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Forgive me, but what does Jony Ive know about building platforms?

being an exec at apple for decades you probably pick up on a few things, even if they're beyond your department

> being an exec at apple for decades you probably pick up on a few things, even if they're beyond your department

It's also possible to lose touch (e.g., butterfly keyboards).

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At this point in his career, Jony Ive is best suited for doing deep dive studies on the corner-radius of new products. And even then, you might as well just default it to that of an ipad, because that seems to be his preference for all things, including $650k Ferraris.

He has no taste anymore. He was right once, made too much money, and lost touch with everything. Now he's a tasteless boomer.

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He has no taste anymore. He was right once, made too much money, and lost touch with everything. Now he's a tasteless boomer.

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Taste changes. Teslas now feel like janky, shoddily assembled, cheaply sourced ipad cases with wheels and a passenger compartment. Novelty wears off.

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This seems like an important post. It looks like these letters are occasionally used to as a tactic, and i can see how such a tactic can really scare employees in a country where legal bills can climb really fast.

> in a country where legal bills can climb really fast Honest question: Are there countries where this is not the case? I'd be interested to read more about how that manage that. If it's some sort of "protecting the little guy"-type thing or a general suppression of legal costs. Or maybe I'm reading too much into your comment.

In many countries, the loser pays all the legal bills.

So if you have been wrongly accused, that may cost you nothing.

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Everybody wants a platform but nobody wants to spend what it takes to make a platform. That includes things like Windows Phone, Fire Phone, all the glasses, Humane, etc. As much as everybody hates on OpenAI for chaotic management, they did buy Jony Ive and are presumably giving him everything he wants to build a platform for them. Even though it probably only buys them a 20% chance of success, they haven't doomed the…

> Everybody wants a platform but nobody wants to spend what it takes to make a platform. Ahistoric jibber jabber. Microsoft gave it their very best shot with Windows Phone. Facebook renamed the entire company to make VR happen. These companies have shoved everything they got into making these platforms, and their fate would not have been different if they had been given another billion. Platforms are hard to make, an…

> Stealing from the one company that has managed to court success makes a lot of sense.

It makes a lot of sense to get into a massive legal battle with one of the most deep-pocketed companies on the planet?

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Taste changes. Teslas now feel like janky, shoddily assembled, cheaply sourced ipad cases with wheels and a passenger compartment. Novelty wears off.

That's quite a coincidence, because marketing campaigns also change with time and wear off after a while.

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Everybody wants a platform but nobody wants to spend what it takes to make a platform. That includes things like Windows Phone, Fire Phone, all the glasses, Humane, etc. As much as everybody hates on OpenAI for chaotic management, they did buy Jony Ive and are presumably giving him everything he wants to build a platform for them. Even though it probably only buys them a 20% chance of success, they haven't doomed the…

“ Or maybe it was a loose ethical environment in general”

Altman doesn’t appear to be a beacon of corporate ethics.

There has to be a reason why almost every single important partnership OpenAI had, abruptly ended, except for maybe Nvidia.

Just recently Satya Nadella publicly implied that OpenAI should not be trusted.

They are slowly becoming the STD of the AI industry, it’s like they think they are too big and awesome to need friends.

Maybe pissing Apple off will teach them a lesson?

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Yes, the US is actually unique in this position. It even has it's own name the "American Rule." In every other country, the loser pays the winner's legal fees.

Doesn't that mean that if you have a slam dunk case you can get a super expensive lawyer just to run up costs as much as possible? Hell, could you ask your friend to be your legal representative and have him charge you a gorillion dollar in legal fees? Then when you win you split the loot?

Civilized countries regulate the rates that lawyers can charge for standard work. Also lawyers get only reimbursed for reasonable costs by the loser. Still expensive, but not absurdly so.
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