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CO2 overload, detected in human blood, suggests toxic atmosphere within 50 years

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Post by OutOfHere »

iknowstuff wrote: post #24
OutOfHere wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a good idea because while one can avoid eating red meat, collagen hydrolysate is mainly obtainable only from bovine sources. Fishes are polluted. As one gets older, collagen becomes necessary for remaining healthy, and no synthetic amino acid mixture comes close in effect. Also imagine that meat can in theory be lab grown.

No thanks. I'd rather not get prion disease. Also: 1. Eating collagen supplements has not been established as a necessary dietary requirement. Your cells synthesize collagen from amino acids, with vitamin C serving as a required cofactor. Some trials report modest improvements in wrinkles, skin hydration, joint pain, or bone measures, but that supports collagen as an optional targeted supplement, not something everyo…

You know much theory, but demonstrate zero practical knowledge:

0. There is near-zero risk of prion disease from cows in the US considering they're domesticated, not wild. There is no recent history of it either in the US. Collagen hydrolysate is highly processed to be short-chain.

1. As one gets older, vitamin C, no matter how much of it is consumed, is useful but insufficient for collagen synthesis.

2. You're right in theory about chicken/fish/pork collagen, but the commercial availability of their derived collagen hydrolysate is terrible or contaminated. Only bovine collagen hydrolysate has excellent and contaminant-free commercial availability.

3. You're measuring the wrong thing. It is not isolated amino acids have the resulting healing effects. It is only peptides, and these are poorly synthesized from plain amino acids.

Re: CO2 overload, detected in human blood, suggests toxic atmosphere within 50 years

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Post by ratelimitsteve »

my whole state right now is under an air quality advisory that is quite literally off the scale bad. breathing outdoors is currently considered "harmful to everyone" per the advisory and simply going somewhere outside your home requires an N95 mask (https://www.wtae.com/article/pennsylvania-code-purple-air-qu...).

Re: CO2 overload, detected in human blood, suggests toxic atmosphere within 50 years

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Post by My_Name »

astro-lizard wrote: post #5

As a software engineer, what can we do to help with anthropogenic emissions? I want to know how I can use my critical thinking to protect the future for us.

I may be the only person responding that see the humour in your post.

I thought it was quite funny TBH

Re: CO2 overload, detected in human blood, suggests toxic atmosphere within 50 years

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Post by NDlurker »

OutOfHere wrote: post #27
strictnein wrote: post #11

"Toxic atmosphere" definitely implies something that I don't seem to be finding in the actual paper. We regularly sit in environments that are 2-3x the levels of atmospheric CO2. Also, was this paper AI written? > "There is now a considerable body of published data showing impacts at levels Which is followed by this, with the very AI "For example" that seems to mostly contradict that statement? > "For example, one st…

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Could be suffering from CO2 toxicity

Re: CO2 overload, detected in human blood, suggests toxic atmosphere within 50 years

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Post by ratelimitsteve »

bix6 wrote: post #14
astro-lizard wrote: post #5

As a software engineer, what can we do to help with anthropogenic emissions? I want to know how I can use my critical thinking to protect the future for us.

Build software that improves the situation. That could be monitoring that helps surface data, tools that help governments and industries manage their CO2 goals, AI systems that search for solutions that you then implement, social apps that help us manifest change, etc. This whole category is underserved because everyone just throws their hands up and says it’s unsolvable, governments problem, etc. Edit: the only posi…

There are plenty of positive responses, yours got downvoted for being essentially a series tautologies. "Do something that fixes the problem" isn't advice, and "have AI do something that fixes the problem" is actually directly harmful to the end goal.

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Post by OutOfHere »

jeffbee wrote: post #34
iknowstuff wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No thanks. I'd rather not get prion disease. Also: 1. Eating collagen supplements has not been established as a necessary dietary requirement. Your cells synthesize collagen from amino acids, with vitamin C serving as a required cofactor. Some trials report modest improvements in wrinkles, skin hydration, joint pain, or bone measures, but that supports collagen as an optional targeted supplement, not something everyo…

If I understand the literature correctly, there is no strong evidence in favor of collagen as a dietary supplement outside of a dose just before weight lifting, because without the exertion the amino acids in blood simply don't reach tendons and ligaments.

You won't understand until you get much older, your joints start to hurt, and your sleep becomes miserable. When you try collagen then in a sufficient amount, e.g. 15g/day, only then might you understand.

Re: CO2 overload, detected in human blood, suggests toxic atmosphere within 50 years

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Post by somenameforme »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #16
jvanderbot wrote: post #4

One interesting thing in the paper that I didn't think of, is that our breathing mechanism is tied to CO2 levels. And therefore, higher CO2 levels (not atmospheric high, but artificially high during studies), can trigger panic attacks and general stress. A slow suffocation hallucination, kind of. Even when there's still sufficient oxygen, your body doesn't "measure" oxygen! I didn't know that!

It's a factor in "shallow water blackout" a fairly common death for experienced swimmers. Caused by hyperventilating prior to a long breath hold flushing too much CO2 out of your blood, so your sense of needing to breathe is suppressed relative to your need for oxygen.

Yeah was going to hit on a similar point. When you hold your breath, that feeling that you need to breathe again isn't because you don't have enough oxygen, but because you have too much CO2. This is why things like hypoxia (lack of oxygen) can be so deadly in environments where it can be a thing (pilots, scuba, etc). Early onset symptoms include things like euphoria which isn't the most helpful warning from your body for 'death: imminent.'

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Post by schainks »

boplicity wrote: post #40

Anyone else ever think of somehow building an at-home carbon-removal system, for lower carbon content in the air of your living spaces? I know it's a silly idea, but one that has occurred to me from time to time.

Uh, do you mean house plants?

There is also a Ted talk about taking this to an extreme, which does seem to anecdotally work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmn7tjSNyAA&pp=ygURdGVkIGthb...

Re: CO2 overload, detected in human blood, suggests toxic atmosphere within 50 years

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Post by strictnein »

OutOfHere wrote: post #27
strictnein wrote: post #11

"Toxic atmosphere" definitely implies something that I don't seem to be finding in the actual paper. We regularly sit in environments that are 2-3x the levels of atmospheric CO2. Also, was this paper AI written? > "There is now a considerable body of published data showing impacts at levels Which is followed by this, with the very AI "For example" that seems to mostly contradict that statement? > "For example, one st…

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> "For example" is AI, then your ability to reason is highly compromised.

Thanks for the insult, my friend.

Earlier this week I had GPT-5.5 help me complete some areas in three different patent docs that were just filed, and I had to remove "for example" from its output dozens of times when I was reviewing it for accuracy.

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