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Re: The state of open source AI

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There isn't any open-source AI. There is Open AI (not to be confused with the closed company called OpenAI, which was unable to trademark its name). There's no open source AI both because the open source community doesn't have the resources to train a useful AI and because AI doesn't have source code.

Re: The state of open source AI

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post #61

There isn't any open-source AI. There is Open AI (not to be confused with the closed company called OpenAI, which was unable to trademark its name). There's no open source AI both because the open source community doesn't have the resources to train a useful AI and because AI doesn't have source code.

Is training code and dataset not source?

Re: The state of open source AI

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post #61

There isn't any open-source AI. There is Open AI (not to be confused with the closed company called OpenAI, which was unable to trademark its name). There's no open source AI both because the open source community doesn't have the resources to train a useful AI and because AI doesn't have source code.

This is just wrong on multiple levels, the open source model ecosystem is very much a thing.

Re: The state of open source AI

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post #37

It sure is nice to see that Mozilla is still doing all that they can to keep on top of current trends, except developing a decent privacy-focused web browser for developers and power users.

But they supply all the source for those projects to flourish and have an ecosystem of their own: Librefox, Iceweasel, Reynard, etc, etc.

Re: The state of open source AI

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Exactly 4 months ago, the marketshare on openrouter was 60%-40% in favor of closed models. Now it's 63%-37% in favor of open models. On March 19th, the open models processed 888B tokens in aggregate, yesterday, they processed 4.19T tokens in aggregate. That's almost 5x in 4 months! I can't think of the right intensifier to describe this level of growth. If you are looking for more details (as inferred by openrouter d…

would love to see a statistic by model, and maybe some sort of classification to get a sense of how good the model is and how much it costs.

edit: this exists https://artificialanalysis.ai/

Re: The state of open source AI

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post #37

It sure is nice to see that Mozilla is still doing all that they can to keep on top of current trends, except developing a decent privacy-focused web browser for developers and power users.

Firefox's AI Chatbot feature only proposes one open model provider (Mistral) and zero local option. They're not walking the talk.

Re: The state of open source AI

#68
As someone that's generally for the proliferation of open models, I want to take this seriously, but it's really difficult when it was clearly written by AI.

I guess they fired whoever used to write copy for these things.

Edit: to be clear, I'm not trying to just dunk on them, I think it's actively hurting their own point to do this, and counter-productive when people can easily clock it - it makes some percent of the audience immediately tune out.

Re: The state of open source AI

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Quick fix for the font, which many people are (rightly) complaining about. Array.from(document.getElementsByClassName("quote")).forEach(p => { p.style.marginTop = "20px"; p.classList.remove("quote", "reveal") }) The issue is that all of the text is a quote, and that renders enormous. That’s probably fine for a tiny quote amongst more text, but here it is jarring.

    querySelectorAll('.quote')

Re: The state of open source AI

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Speculation: open models is what will kill Anthropic and OpenAI. Hyperscalers can run the models without a licensing fee. Apple can make them smaller and put them on the device. The frontier models are an edge and a liability. They're astronomically expensive to train. Without them, their models will fade into obscurity. Their marketing depends on people believing the models are meaningfully different, as people have…

Completely agree. Once I can reliably get open models doing what I am on Fable ultra I imagine I will switch for good. I am fortunate to have access to a decent bit of local RAM, 192GB of DDR5 at an OK speed. It is not enough and costs are well past absurd. In a few years time I envisage a setup that is sub $10k which can accomplish such tasks. The pace so far has been breakneck. That is all I personally need. That may change, but until true AGI I do think there will be a ceiling to how much I will pay for something frontier if it is only marginally better.
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