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A Road to Lisp: Which Lisp

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Re: A Road to Lisp: Which Lisp

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Post by BoingBoomTschak »

dieggsy wrote: post #6

CL also has pretty much arbitrarily extensible syntax: - https://sr.ht/~dieggsy/whisper/ - https://dieggsy.com/json-literals.html And could also be used to build languages, supporting more modern programming paradigms (though yes, I believe Racket does make this easier): - https://coalton-lang.github.io/ I also might have written the Common Lisp example using reduce as well, which is in the standard library, but that…

I'd have used

  (funcall (ecase operation (:add '+) (:subtract '-) (:multiply '*)) result value)
instead, looks funkier =)

Re: A Road to Lisp: Which Lisp

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Post by dieggsy »

BoingBoomTschak wrote: post #11
dieggsy wrote: post #6

CL also has pretty much arbitrarily extensible syntax: - https://sr.ht/~dieggsy/whisper/ - https://dieggsy.com/json-literals.html And could also be used to build languages, supporting more modern programming paradigms (though yes, I believe Racket does make this easier): - https://coalton-lang.github.io/ I also might have written the Common Lisp example using reduce as well, which is in the standard library, but that…

I'd have used (funcall (ecase operation (:add '+) (:subtract '-) (:multiply '*)) result value) instead, looks funkier =)

Oh yeah, way more fun :) I just kinda saw CL in the Clojure and was trying to make it look like that.

Re: A Road to Lisp: Which Lisp

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Post by hnarayanan »

groundzeros2015 wrote: post #8
0xb0565e486 wrote: post #4

I really wanted to Lisp as a main programming language, and sometimes I still do. I just find readability such a hurdle regardless of how long I used it. I didn't find that it ever became as natural as the other group of programming languages. I find a procedural style of programming so much easier to reason about, both when writing and reading. Either way, I'm really happy I took some time to learn it and use it a l…

(Heresy alert. Inb4 homoinconcity) I do find that most of my lisp skills carry over to JavaScript quite well while allowing me to write imperative functions more fluently. Prog blocks are pretty good. I wonder if another DSL could be better.

Maybe because Brendan Eich was tasked with "doing Scheme in the browser" before it pivoted to JavaScript.

Re: A Road to Lisp: Which Lisp

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Post by ynniv »

I have a work-in-progress called Modus. 100% written by Claude, so take that however you will. The current release boots on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W. The next release (unreleased in the pipe for ~ months) is standard Common Lisp on bare aarch64 (pi) and x64 (qemu for now), with linux aarch64 and x64 command line interfaces à la sbcl.

https://github.com/modus-lisp/modus

Since you can't use an OS by itself, I've rounded out the Common Lisp environment with portable ssh client and server, web browser, and a bitcoin node. Framebuffer with VNC in the pipe

Re: A Road to Lisp: Which Lisp

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Post by nobleach »

Since a few folks here recommended Common Lisp to me as the language that would "tick all my boxes", I've been doing a deep dive. Right now, I'm working through SICP again with DrRacket. The first time I worked through it with MIT Scheme MANY years ago. It's shocking how much I've forgotten.

What I like about this article is that it walks through the different "camps" of Lisp. Scheme is so intriguing to me because of how small it can actually be. I can build nearly any paradigm I want to exist. The problem is, if I were to actually go find a job where they were using a Lisp, (I hear those actually exist) they wouldn't want to use my "Result monad + match statement - railway pattern" that I've used from OCaml and Rust. So learning something that is truly "common" can make more sense.

As far as learning though, Scheme feels "just right". I've imposed a "no AI until I've found a working solution" rule that keeps my mind engaged. Couple that with a willingness to say, "I don't know that right now... I'll think about it throughout the day and maybe by this evening I'll have an answer".

Re: A Road to Lisp: Which Lisp

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Post by z0ltan »

ynniv wrote: post #15

I have a work-in-progress called Modus. 100% written by Claude, so take that however you will. The current release boots on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W. The next release (unreleased in the pipe for ~ months) is standard Common Lisp on bare aarch64 (pi) and x64 (qemu for now), with linux aarch64 and x64 command line interfaces à la sbcl. https://github.com/modus-lisp/modus Since you can't use an OS by itself, I've rounded…

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Re: A Road to Lisp: Which Lisp

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ynniv wrote: post #15

I have a work-in-progress called Modus. 100% written by Claude, so take that however you will. The current release boots on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W. The next release (unreleased in the pipe for ~ months) is standard Common Lisp on bare aarch64 (pi) and x64 (qemu for now), with linux aarch64 and x64 command line interfaces à la sbcl. https://github.com/modus-lisp/modus Since you can't use an OS by itself, I've rounded…

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