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$100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by threetonesun »

wzdd wrote: post #197
anonova wrote: post #11

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Literal music videos are still fun and a valid creative direction, e.g., Vance Joy's "Riptide": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ_1HMAGb4k

Come on, that video is on another level. "All my friends are turning green" (shot of $1 bills), "she's been living on the highest shelf" (woman standing on Juliet balcony), "they come unstuck" (someone pulling twin pole popsicle apart) For contrast these have "ice cold" (shot of ice cubes), "got chucks on" (shot of shoes), "livin' it up in the city" (shot of city).

The retired dragon(s) were honestly my favorite part simply because of how absurd they were.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by achalxyz »

contagiousflow wrote: post #457
tejohnso wrote: post #450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon I should hope that a "talented" creative "with a vision" could, do better, yes. But now a talentless hack devoid of vision can do something half decent too. And if you don't think this is half decent, just replace "now" with "soon".

And do you think that makes the world a better place?

What does making the world a better place mean?

How do you define “a better place”?

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by js8 »

qnleigh wrote: post #322
scrollop wrote: post #298

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As much as I don't want jobs taken away by AI, a creative person with a vision that would usually required $1 million budget, could create such a video using AI by being very specific in what they require which would not be a " grey goo of the average of every concept " eg. "scene 32, same 2 characters from the previous scene, now dressed in the garb of Egyption middle kingdom high priests, though with cat faces, dan…

I would really love to see examples of creatives using modern AI/LLMs to make quality art, and it feels like this should be happening, but I can't think of any examples yet. Maybe there's so much low-effort slop that the good works are lost in the noise. Or maybe most artists don't use AI on principle. I would love to see examples if anyone has any. I saw a few things on r/AIVideos that I sort of liked, but I wouldn'…

I have enjoyed Craft (1979). Artistically might be dubious, it's a sort of genre/style parody but I think writing is better than the actual Minecraft movie.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by armanj »

contagiousflow wrote: post #457
tejohnso wrote: post #450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon I should hope that a "talented" creative "with a vision" could, do better, yes. But now a talentless hack devoid of vision can do something half decent too. And if you don't think this is half decent, just replace "now" with "soon".

And do you think that makes the world a better place?

the moment debate becomes philosophical it's over

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by raxxorraxor »

tejohnso wrote: post #450
hbn wrote: post #257

Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

> A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon I should hope that a "talented" creative "with a vision" could, do better, yes. But now a talentless hack devoid of vision can do something half decent too. And if you don't think this is half decent, just replace "now" with "soon".

We all know that tasteless junk media would never be successful, this is why you only find high quality media on the internet and only high quality media gets popular in the mainstream. That sounds right, right?

Seriously, the nudge for artistic value can be made, although I would very much doubt a creative human making a video for an established song with a clear theme would do better in creativity. Perhaps the one advantage a human would have is to reject the expectations for such a tasks, which the AI is trained to fulfil.

The problem isn't that such content lacks artistic value. It is that it is enough for the broadest audience. The average consumer is basically a vacuum cleaner.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by qbit42 »

bubblegumcrisis wrote: post #445
johnvanommen wrote: post #329

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> AI is destroying the economics which allowed for a sizable middle class of artists. I was an art major and switched to CompSci purely for the money. AI "art" is often slop, but the ability to create something in seconds that used to take months shouldn't be taken lightly. There will undoubtedly be truly creative people who will use AI art as a force multiplier instead of a shortcut, and that is when things will get…

"I was an art major and switched to CompSci purely for the money." Translation: Not an artist. I worked for 30 years as a pianist. The number of programmers who have told me they too are a musician... No- you aren't. And you never were. That's the thing, if you were a musician, you would be playing music. That would be your job. I mean as a hobbyist, yes, sure, enjoy splashing paint and calling it art, but spending t…

I agree with some of your characterizations here, but I don’t think it is fair to say that if you are not currently a professional artist, you were never a true artist. People get unlucky, have families to support, etc

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by marknutter »

deebosong wrote: post #130

No need to take any pot shots at this trash in terms of aesthetic efficacy in earnest, if y'all know what I mean. But as an experiment, it's interesting. There seems to be an odd consistency to all of them, which reveals a kind of internal logic & coherence of sorts that courses throughout any iteration. Aesthetically, where can you place these? I feel like the late David Lynch could have used some tropes in his unne…

How about the full 360 head turn in the first video. Nightmare fuel.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by lostmsu »

basisword wrote: post #372
hbn wrote: post #257

Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

You can find someone on Fiverr that’ll do a better job than this for $100. The concept will be completely different but it’ll be much better.

$100 for a video on Fiverr?

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by basisword »

lostmsu wrote: post #469
basisword wrote: post #372

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can find someone on Fiverr that’ll do a better job than this for $100. The concept will be completely different but it’ll be much better.

$100 for a video on Fiverr?

It's basically a freelancer website at this point. The original concept is long dead.
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