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Apple targets dozens of OpenAI employees with legal letters

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Re: Apple targets dozens of OpenAI employees with legal letters

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Predictions on who wins? Does Apple actually have a winnable case or are they just throwing a wrench in things?

Both parties will just settle.

Apple already caught former employees accessing the Apple internal network with unreturned laptops after termination that’s pretty much game over.

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Predictions on who wins? Does Apple actually have a winnable case or are they just throwing a wrench in things?

Apple is not the company that makes this sort of thing just for fun. Also, they don't have a directly competing business with OpenAI, so slander doesn't make sense. I think this is genuine.

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Re: Apple targets dozens of OpenAI employees with legal letters

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Apple must have hard evidence on this. I can’t believe they would take it this far without already knowing they are going to win. If they have to fire a huge chunk of their hardware employees it’s going to throw their IPO plans into chaos.

What do you mean "this far"? How far is this?

Corps lose law suits all the time. They always have to go whatever "this far" is before it happens, surely?

Re: Apple targets dozens of OpenAI employees with legal letters

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I’m a huge fan of Apple but this kind of thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Regardless of whether OpenAI poached some of their talent or is the one in the wrong, Apple has such a massively dominant hardware business (some might say monopoly level in some areas) that for them to be publicly acknowledging how scared they are of OpenAI…it’s just…pathetic. They’re a $5T company and can’t muster up the motivation to ge…

This isn't just them being scared of a competitor because they're able to outperform Apple, according to Apple they have proof of an active plan not just to poach talent, but to get that talent to syphon out information as they leave, as well as former employees keeping Apple hardware and using it to access confidential information. If what Apple claims is true, this is straightforwardly illegal. Could Apple be lying? Maybe, but that's a very risky move.

Re: Apple targets dozens of OpenAI employees with legal letters

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Predictions on who wins? Does Apple actually have a winnable case or are they just throwing a wrench in things?

It would be very strange for Apple’s legal department to send out formal letters filled with claims on a lark.

Not really, just slowing down a potential competitor could still be worth it.

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Predictions on who wins? Does Apple actually have a winnable case or are they just throwing a wrench in things?

Generally speaking, I think Apple tends to win on anything related to ex-employees. I am not sure if this is normal across Big-Tech. But surely is for Apple.

Depending on what is at stake. Example the one with Nuvia and Qualcomm I believe they just settled.

Re: Apple targets dozens of OpenAI employees with legal letters

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I’m a huge fan of Apple but this kind of thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Regardless of whether OpenAI poached some of their talent or is the one in the wrong, Apple has such a massively dominant hardware business (some might say monopoly level in some areas) that for them to be publicly acknowledging how scared they are of OpenAI…it’s just…pathetic. They’re a $5T company and can’t muster up the motivation to ge…

In what case is apple a monopoly?

Re: Apple targets dozens of OpenAI employees with legal letters

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I’m a huge fan of Apple but this kind of thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Regardless of whether OpenAI poached some of their talent or is the one in the wrong, Apple has such a massively dominant hardware business (some might say monopoly level in some areas) that for them to be publicly acknowledging how scared they are of OpenAI…it’s just…pathetic. They’re a $5T company and can’t muster up the motivation to ge…

You may want to read the related articles first. I'm personally quite anti-Apple on several fronts, but the evidence so far seems damning if it holds up in court.

Re: Apple targets dozens of OpenAI employees with legal letters

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha ha. Worked at Apple for over two decades—would not have stayed at a company I thought was evil for that long. A bully at times? I wouldn't argue with that.

A quick search: APP STORE, COMPETITION, AND MARKET CONTROL - U.S. Department of Justice antitrust lawsuit Accuses Apple of monopolizing smartphone markets and anticompetitive behavior. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-apple-monopolizing-smartphone-markets - EU Commission DMA breach The European Commission found Apple in breach of the Digital Markets Act regarding steering rules. https://digital-…

None of this seems like it could reasonably be described as evil.
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