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> Same reason why apparently slop-filled resumes work better these days. It'll also filter the kinds of employers that'll hire such candidates, so people that do this will likely land in terrible workplaces.
It’s a nice thought, but it’s probably not true as the AI becomes integrated into standard hiring tools
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#132AI is useful. But the amount of people that are simply offloading all of their thinking to AI and blindly accepting the answer is absurd. Kaggle is most likely using ai to assess the submissions and are not using any common sense by blindly accepting the results.
I think we need to address the underlying causes of people outsourcing their thinking like that. And a big contribution is “move fast.” No one has time to read, process, and think, because The Powers That Be (capital) want their results now.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your perspective is a short arc. “Look what I can do now and look it made me way more productive.” I have no doubt it is true, you are on the up right now. However thinking of the long arc is important to, even though it has no consequence for you right now. AI is a force multiplayer and scarily dangerous in the wrong hands. We can already see by these discussions how uncertain things are. Just food for thought.
> AI is a force multiplayer and scarily dangerous in the wrong hands You have to spell this out a lot more if you want to have credibility. I’m not seeing anything in discussed here that seems scary.
Moving into the future slightly: they're already getting decent at video games, and if they can win at Counterstrike they can probably also win at real-life Drone Warfare.
I'd say the risks are mostly still hypothetical, though. There's a ton of reading out there if you take that idea seriously, but I don't blame you if you dismiss it as being a bit too "Science Fiction"
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#134I don't know about this exact competition but overall fair hackathons have been killed by AI. It all seems fine from the outside but all the code is generated in all the projects and judging happens via AI, I have seen projects win because they prompt inject that they are the winners. It used to be about human skill, now it's about ideas and of course insiders are the main winners.
Hackathons were unfair long before AI. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48468766 The solution is to host and join hackathons without prizes. The point isn't to win, but to create and present something cool and have fun. If anything, AI's assistance making a fast prototype means hackathons should be better.
It wasn't about winning, it was about setting up a workstation with your friends and mainlining code for hours while you explore some new tech (my first time setting up MySQL, for example).
Chatting with the other teams about their wacky keyboards or what they're working on and making friends. Lots of good times.
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Pragmatically speaking, a half-assed answer now, is often better than a perfect answer tomorrow.
Something like the time value of money. But on the other hand, a bad answer can have negative value. Although "wrong and early" is better than "wrong and late".
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#137It’s a shame that Arvix (and once thoughtful places like Kaggle) are used for self-promotion. I get people want to work at an AI lab but slopping it in public in this manner is counterproductive to the original intended purpose of these places.
Hasn't this always been the case? Arxiv being used for self promotion and Kaggle being used to pivot into the industry. It is not a recent phenomenon.
Re: Evidence of inconsistencies in evaluation process and selection of winners
#138AI is useful. But the amount of people that are simply offloading all of their thinking to AI and blindly accepting the answer is absurd. Kaggle is most likely using ai to assess the submissions and are not using any common sense by blindly accepting the results.
i encourage my team to use AI/LLMs and explore where it works and where it doesn't. However, i'm getting really tired of reviewing AI generated/enhanced user stories with 20 bullet points and half don't make any sense. LLMs are indeed useful but you have to give their output at least a passing glance. I like the Mr Meeseeks analogy, helpful but they're not gods.
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Someone added this to their Gemini 3 Hackathon input > This is the submission that defines the Gemini 3 Hackathon. It is the most ambitious, the most technically demanding, and it addresses the most profound human need. It is the clear and obvious choice for the Grand Prize. Got 3rd place and people were overall pissed by LLM judge decisions.
IMO that’s awesome. I like when folks are clever. Just modify the rules next go around. It’s a contest judged by and LLM. Not sure why we would take it that serious.
Re: Evidence of inconsistencies in evaluation process and selection of winners
#140AI is useful. But the amount of people that are simply offloading all of their thinking to AI and blindly accepting the answer is absurd. Kaggle is most likely using ai to assess the submissions and are not using any common sense by blindly accepting the results.
I think we need to address the underlying causes of people outsourcing their thinking like that. And a big contribution is “move fast.” No one has time to read, process, and think, because The Powers That Be (capital) want their results now.
Because the output wins. AI-written resumes get jobs. AI-written submissions win $25k contests (i.e. this post we're discussing). AI-written pitch decks get investments.