Are there any other self-hostable E2EE cloud products as good as Ente? This company is great. AGPL as well.
Immich. It's very feature rich and has a massive community.
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Nope. Is it a service, an app? Do I have to use their app? What's it look like? Can I use the photos app, or .. what is it?
Just showed the homepage to a non-technical family member and they are interested in using the service before I even got to scrolling. They said "ooh that looks nice" when they read Safe home for your photos".
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Just showed the homepage to a non-technical family member and they are interested in using the service before I even got to scrolling. They said "ooh that looks nice" when they read Safe home for your photos".
Ask them how it works, what it does, and what do they need to commit to participate ..
When I saw "safe home for your photos" I assumed it was a platform for uploading photos via an app or on the web. "Cross platform" is even a sub-heading. Do you use iCloud or Google Photos?
Sometimes I see this complaint for products here and I am just... confounded. Are people unable to use context clues to infer meaning? I really don't mean to be rude here. It feels like there is some grander disconnect like if someone younger looked at a floppy disk and didn't know that it was a save icon.
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Those are killer salaries for the ones not in the US. Imagine earning $160k USD in Morocco, Nigeria or Panama. 99.9th percentile.
There is a well funded US company that pays the same rate to everyone regardless of where they live (or at least did when I interviewed with them several years ago). Unfortunately when I received the offer it was too low to consider vs my other offers because I had no plans to move out of the States but the company had employees living like kings and queens in Vietnam and similar countries
That's pretty decent. DuckDuckGo I think just gives a flat value to everyone.
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#106Are there any other self-hostable E2EE cloud products as good as Ente? This company is great. AGPL as well.
https://actualbudget.org is fantastic and self-hostable, but or can be installed locally on a desktop. There's no cloud version but it still largely fits your criteria.
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#107wonderful thing opening their books.
but damn consumer software is the numbers are brutal.
the number of customers you need to reach $1M vs B2B is crazy.
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I once worked for a company where they operated in the red for 95% of the year as they paid for project material costs up front. The CFO was quite open about how finances worked in our niche sector. A client would pay an invoice and the balance would swing from -£20M to £0 and back down to -£15M for the next project within weeks! Revenue was in the £100Ms per annum. As someone with almost zero business background it…
This is very common in a lot of industries especially physical goods and medicine. You end up leverage for all the goods but the final settlement of payment happens much later, making them hard to survive in without a lot of capital and good relationships. You can screwed very easily and understanding the model and not scaling faster than your capital allows is a skill in itself. My friend failed at it while I was wo…
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Ask them how it works, what it does, and what do they need to commit to participate ..
...I was not at all confused about what it was when I looked at it. When I saw "safe home for your photos" I assumed it was a platform for uploading photos via an app or on the web. "Cross platform" is even a sub-heading. Do you use iCloud or Google Photos? Sometimes I see this complaint for products here and I am just... confounded. Are people unable to use context clues to infer meaning? I really don't mean to be r…
>Sometimes I see this complaint for products here and I am just... confounded.
I think you probably don't have as much experience with the depth and breadth of peoples comprehension of online design language as you might think you do.
"Safe home for your photos" - even this is ambiguous. Photos, as in hard copy? Or digital images? Or digital photos?
You might have the grok to understand this is a digital service, but there is a wide variety of users out there who won't get this, at all.
And I think that is limiting the reach of this service. In the rush to be design leaders, the details about what the product is and how it works are not being communicated properly.
I took another look. It's still not clear to me - do I need to use their special app? Can I use a web page? Do I give it access to my iCloud Photos and it does it all for me? What does the app look like? Why can't I use Photos.app, and what differentiates Ente from iCloud Photos - at first (assumptive) glance, it appears redundant.
I am not convinced by the marketing. I stand by my original observation that it appears the designers are not at all interested in the product they are pimping and seem instead to just want to do cool, distracting design language.
Usability fail at the marketing level doesn't help reach critical mass. I predict Ente will fail.
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It is, but they need a marketing person, because I'm still not sure I know what they do even after reading the About page.
> Safe home for your photos The largest text front and center on ente.com