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$100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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AI is destroying the economics which allowed for a sizable middle class of artists. The issue is that many are paid for their art mostly for its aesthetic rather than artistic value. This isn’t the most creatively fulfilling, but it previously allowed many artists to make a living while refining their skills, often enabling them to pursue their real creative ambitions on the side.

I understand what you mean but speakers and recording equipment destroyed the economics of paying people to play music a long time ago. It's another way of looking at the problem. Smartphone cameras and easy-to-use professional equipment were thought to destroy the photography profession, yet photographers still exist, although we have to admit not as many as in the past. If I had a company with a budget, I wouldn't…

Sure, this mirrors history, technology is always transforming economics.

I guess my point is that there is a decent sized middle class of creative professionals right now, and I expect that the number of them will go down significantly due to AI. Seems like art will become more and more restricted to hobbyists and the lucky few who achieve mainstream success.

This is kind of what happened with photography. But I think the scale is much bigger, affecting all creative industries.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Art isn't just the screenplay, or a prompt; it's the clash between reality and the intent (whether a location or practical set constraints), the individual skill of everyone involved, costume and prop department. And it may change during production. And effort. If it's easy, it's easily reproducible and not worth that much. And novelty, that's something current models aren't capable of. That's why Jarimoquai's Virtua…

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Do you feel your coding skills atrophying as you write less code?

Do you plan to mitigate that or just let them slide?

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Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

As much as I don't want jobs taken away by AI, a creative person with a vision that would usually required $1 million budget, could create such a video using AI by being very specific in what they require which would not be a " grey goo of the average of every concept " eg. "scene 32, same 2 characters from the previous scene, now dressed in the garb of Egyption middle kingdom high priests, though with cat faces, dan…

A lot of iconic scenes were at the discretion of the actors in those scenes. One wonders how much personality and complexity you can really get without the skills and idiosyncrasies of everybody in front of and behind the cameras on a real movie set.

My point being there's a lot more complexity in not producing slop than it seems.

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Interesting, so the 'pure vision' of the director can remain unsullied by the inept crew, huh? :) More seriously, it reminds me of a video I was watching yesterday about a tabletop roleplay DM who was great at _telling_ stories but the players felt they were not included in the story. That is, the 'art' (if it is) of roleplay is collaborative between the storyteller and the players. Are movies not usually a collabora…

Multiple issues with this argument. First you use crew and directors as holding dual use - one is collaborating on the idea itself. One is a necessary thing in the process. Crew is important primarily because they literally appear on screen. That they help collaborate is a good side effect. AI still allows you to get collaborators for ideas and eliminates need that is usually a waste of time. I get your point on usin…

Constraint breeds creativity. If you get to the point where AI can put anything you want on the screen with complete freedom, you’re going to get complete horse shit.

>fake constraints

People add fake constraints all the time. Artists using AI will have to learn to artificially constrain themselves to produce anything good. My guess is it takes about 50 years.

At the same time there will always be people who want to see real actors on a real set.

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One thing all models aced was the costume design. I don’t know why this was the case. Maybe they trained exclusively on lots of fashion data to use models in fashion industry.

Filmmaking is inherently an iterative process. You don’t normally one shot music videos in the real world. Agents should review and iterate at every step of the process. Lots of room for improvement here.

Also for comparison, budget of the original Uptown Funk music video was probably around $100,000. Even “indie” is pretty expensive in traditional filmmaking due to high cost of equipment, people and places. 100x cost reduction is huge for any industry.

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Art isn't just the screenplay, or a prompt; it's the clash between reality and the intent (whether a location or practical set constraints), the individual skill of everyone involved, costume and prop department. And it may change during production. And effort. If it's easy, it's easily reproducible and not worth that much. And novelty, that's something current models aren't capable of. That's why Jarimoquai's Virtua…

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No one ever said anything remotely like that about software development 10 years ago.

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Art isn't just the screenplay, or a prompt; it's the clash between reality and the intent (whether a location or practical set constraints), the individual skill of everyone involved, costume and prop department. And it may change during production. And effort. If it's easy, it's easily reproducible and not worth that much. And novelty, that's something current models aren't capable of. That's why Jarimoquai's Virtua…

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Art isn't just the screenplay, or a prompt; it's the clash between reality and the intent (whether a location or practical set constraints), the individual skill of everyone involved, costume and prop department. And it may change during production. And effort. If it's easy, it's easily reproducible and not worth that much. And novelty, that's something current models aren't capable of. That's why Jarimoquai's Virtua…

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They have the same sentiment also now. I expect when you not write code at all you aren't more productive than before or producing unmaintainable shit. Sorry bro, most of the time it needs more text to explain the AI which small fault she has done compared with just fixing it self. So when you don't code at all, you either lose time by explaining this issues a guy that never learns or you just ignore them.

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I'm amazed how easily people dismiss this. They used less that an hour of wall clock time and max $50 to do this. How much would it take for me to create videos like this? I'm guessing 1-4 years calendar time practicing half an hour every day just to break my lack of talent. Immeasurable cost given how there's no way in hell I'm going to invest that kind of time for a skill I don't actually want to acquire. Somebody…

That depends on your own standards to be honest. Here's a video from Meshuggah which is a camcorder recording of them emoting in a camper van - that's half an hour of work, a few hours of editing tops. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A_tSyJBsRQ My point is, anyone can make a music video on any budget or level of talent. And camcorder silliness is more artistic and entertaining than AI generated stuff any day of the…

This. I generally much rather watch a live video of the band performing the song interspersed with some behind the scene footage than some random badly acted (non-AI) slop video on top of the song.

If you like the music, you probably want to feel some connection to the people making that music.

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