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Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by dminik »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #338
dminik wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for calling me an idiot I guess ... I mean, I don't particularly understand how "caring about warranty" goes against what you've written after that. Replacing something for free is surely better than doing so for $300 dollars, no? Are you saying I should have installed GrapheneOS on the phone, possibly discovered that the phone has hardware issues and then go out to buy another phone because I have an emergenc…

> Thanks for calling me an idiot I guess ... Did you have a $3000 phone? > Replacing something for free is surely better than doing so for $300 dollars, no? And having a phone you like more is surely better than having to return your phone and buy a different one, no? It's a tradeoff. If they can even legally touch your warranty to begin with.

> Did you have a $3000 phone?

Funnily enough, no. When I read that comment, I didn't even know that phones can go for such a price. But, apparently some triple folding phones do.

I read that as a "buy a budget phone and use it until it's gone, don't buy an expensive phone," which to be fair was exactly what I was doing up until this point.

> And having a phone you like more is surely better than having to return your phone and buy a different one, no?

Yes. But I do include functionality when evaluating how much I like a phone. I liked the phone at first, but then the issues moved it to a dislike. Considering I only had it for a week, what further issues awaited? I didn't want to risk that.

Searching for a different phone sucks, but at least I get my money back.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by rldjbpin »

hard to say the company was working the same post 7 series. the headlines is more like lexus leaving the US (ironic) than the parent company (Oppo).

those who still love their phones can still get most of the way there by using an equivalent oppo phone and tweak some software.

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Post by annzabelle »

ielillo wrote: post #350
annzabelle wrote: post #322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I met someone who told me they flew domestically with a licensed hunting rifle in NZ about 10 years ago and they were told to open carry the rifle onto the plane where the flight attendant locked it up. Unrelated but Finnair's requirements for flying with doctoral swords are wonderful.

You can do it in the usa too. You need a special briefcase to lock your weapons and declare them at the counter. it’s a complicated, but possible

Big difference between specially locked checked briefcase and open carried rifle through the airport.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by neogodless »

tgtweak wrote: post #257

The cameras on the Pro versions used to be so good, then starting around one-plus 9 they really went downhill. I have photos in my archive from my OP8 Pro that look much better than those taken with the OP13. Coinciding with Samsung nerfing the Ultra (aside from the bloatware) - it's not looking like a great landscape for Android Phones.

Anecdotally, the OnePlus 7 Pro had decent but super fun cameras. Some color issues.

My OnePlus Pro 9 felt like a good step up in photo quality.

And my OnePlus 12 takes awesome photos I'm very happy with. I didn't experience the same "downhill" as you.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by cromka »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #337
ChocolateGod wrote: post #294

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> FYI, Android has had zRAM support since KitKat, which is from (checking notes) 2013. Same year as iOS. iOS compresses regular pages, it doesn't need to go through the swap system to compress/decompress them. This imho should end up having better savings and performance. zswap when it gains support for non-swap usage may close the gap.

Maybe it's not technically a "swap system" but I'll be shocked if they're not doing effectively the same thing. How could you avoid having active uncompressed pages and inactive compressed pages? The amount of tracking you'd need to do to use compressed pages directly seems like an impossible amount of overhead.

There are good articles that explain that and OP is right.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by naishoya »

jodacola wrote: post #290
adamsmark wrote: post #264

I worked for OnePlus a few years ago, managing its Amazon account. The culture leaned heavily toward 996: 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. I was there during a particularly tumultuous period, and by that point a lot of the staffing had already been hollowed out. That said, the OnePlus 11, 12, 13, and 15 are great phones. The 13 and 15 in particular have insane battery life. I have never managed to drain either one…

Appreciate the insight. I'm really quite curious about the inverse of this from the US. HNers who don't live in the US but have worked for a US company trying to do business in local markets: what weird US-centric idiosyncrasies have you seen companies and US-based leadership foisting upon local markets?

A bit of anecdotal story about the differences between US and Japanese companies and customer relations follows:

The scene was Tokyo Disneyland at the time of the 2011 Tohoku earthquake. Shelter in place was a requirements, and there were school age and younger children who took refuge in a gift shop. As a help to keep the youngest children comforted through a scary time, the staff there took the initiative and let the children hold stuffed anials from the gift shop inventory.

Now, think about this from the US Disney Corp. viewpoint. They did what?? They gave away what amounted to pretty much the entire inventory of stuffed characters?

How fast would the manager taking that action be 'unhired' at L.A. or Florida?

But, this was Japan and things are different.

The managers have a cultural standard of hospitality and responsibility of care, even though this is a Retail Location, these children and parents are still guests in the venue.

The children and their parents also knew that these weren't "gifts" from Disney, but, without getting explicit or formal assent at the time of handing them out, everyone just understood that when the shelter in place period ended, the stuffed characters were to be returned.

Staff didn't even have to ask for them back, and the parents had managed childrens' expectations to prevent meltdowns when that happened.

All the children who needed some extra comforting in a stressful situation had a favorite character, and the Retail Location lost exactly zero product.

I could go on with many other intrinsic differences, but this one is a pretty clear example.

So, the US business realities neither were necessary nor appropriate in that situation.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by cromka »

rock_artist wrote: post #41

I'm not sure as others why others feel this is a major change. OnePlus was always a subsidiary by Carl Pei [1] who eventually left the brand to create a new gadgets/tech company. Nothing [2] is the next project he started that keeps many of the ideas started with OnePlus, good value for money and aim for quality Android. Bootloader also seems to allow unlocking [3] In recent years OnePlus was just another Chinese pho…

I really expected Nothing to offer support for GrapheneOS. I bought their phone hoping they'd do this eventually, but I'm bit disappointed. The security patches are typically delivered with 3-6 months delay. Not good.

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Post by mlrtime »

freedomben wrote: post #158

OnePlus is one of the saddest stories out there. It was the hacker's choice for a while. It was originally the "Never Settle" phone that ran mostly stock android, had specs maxxed out, price was great, and bootloader was unlocked plus they provided factory images. Those were all reasons I bought a lot of OnePlus phones in the early years. Then they flushed nearly all of it down the toilet. The day they stopped postin…

I know HN doesn't like vids for obvious reasons but Marques summed it pretty well IMO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZdbbN3FCzE

OnePlus starting out: "We’re going to build the ultimate, cheap, bloatware-free phone directly for tech nerds by cutting out carriers, ads, and useless features."

OnePlus scaling up: "Nerds don't buy enough phones to keep us alive, and they'll leave the second someone else is $10 cheaper. We have to sell to normal people."

OnePlus today: To survive, they had to raise prices, buy ads, partner with carriers, and merge with a generic parent company.

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Post by mlrtime »

Scene_Cast2 wrote: post #25

They were one of the brands with unlockable bootloaders and slide switches for mute. Unfortunately the Oppo takeover didn't preserve either. Written on a OnePlus 8 Pro.

One plus 13 most definitely has a physical slide switch, in fact it has mute/vibrate/sound, I use it all the time. It's also a great fidget switch :)

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Post by inigyou »

annzabelle wrote: post #360
superxpro12 wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds more like a local airport kinda thing. I'm sure any kind of bush airport this is no problem. But not one of the busiest federal airports... thats just an entirely different scenario.

I think part of it is that even at the busiest airport on the South Island (Christchurch) this would be a doable ask for us. My boss just has no concept of what life is like in a large country, let alone a large city. He's thinking of LaGuardia Airport as just Christchurch Airport but larger.

411,000: Population of Christchurch

8,600,000: Population of New York City (where LaGuardia is)

1,250,000: Population of New Zealand's South Island (where Christchurch is)

5,400,000: Population of New Zealand

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