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Buddy, you’re the one who jumped out of the tech box. Name a Chinese company, and the conversation is equivalent. Say “the Chinese,” and you’ve expanded to the entire country and arguably all people from China. Learn to be precise with your language.
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> You've mistaken me for the guy you originally replied to. It happens, no worries, but I'm not that guy. I'm just replying to the list I saw you state. Oops. Yup. blfr vs b112. > And of course, gmail endlessly scanned and data snarfed, including for AI training, which is immensely beyond Meta's capabilities. That doesn't seem to to be beyond the sum of FB feed, Messenger, WhatsApp, etc? > Zuck isn't a saint, but it'…
I will agree that chat apps and feeds on facebook are a large swath of info. I just don't think it compares to gmail, and of course all the other data I've mentioned. The power of Android and even push notifications, from a data collection perspective is beyond immense. Amazon at one point stopped sending details of purchases via email, eg "we have your order" emails, because Google was snarfing data and purchasing t…
Sure, sure, but that's not why I used terafab as a question for "what if competent AI?"
The details on that are… ugh. They were clearly done for glossy magazines and posters rather than with thought, wouldn't be surprised if it was vibe-written or done by a teenage intern or by someone high on drugs.
But if you ignore all that and treat it as a serious proposal, a billion(!) Optimus robots with a competent AI is Musk having personal control over a workforce the size of China or India's adult population.
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Just use it in pi, I am
How is your experience with using grok?
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This has been my favorite coding harness of all time. The mouse works for a lot of things. Theres keybindings that confuse me, but I otherwise enjoyed it. I might wind up forking / contributing in the hopes of helping to make it somewhat better. I had built my own also using Rust but I liked their implementation much better. This might explain part of how they pulled it off.
I don't understand why these TUI are popular - isn't a regular Graphical UI better for this?
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I will agree that chat apps and feeds on facebook are a large swath of info. I just don't think it compares to gmail, and of course all the other data I've mentioned. The power of Android and even push notifications, from a data collection perspective is beyond immense. Amazon at one point stopped sending details of purchases via email, eg "we have your order" emails, because Google was snarfing data and purchasing t…
> FABs are another issue entirely. Re terafab. It's very difficult to audit silicon. Just cutting the top off a chip layer by layer and using an electron microscope, isn't going to fully give you trust. People have been worried about their designs being modified at the fab for a long time. Ah well. Sure, sure, but that's not why I used terafab as a question for "what if competent AI?" The details on that are… ugh. Th…
This is a loooong podcast, but was just great from start to end. Multiples of the neurolink team were interviewed, including Musk at the start.
https://podcasts.happyscribe.com/lex-fridman-podcast-artific...
I think Musk's interview is maybe 30 minutes? Certainly less than an hour. In it he does dive a bit into robotics, and how he'd like robots everywhere. I believe he talks about how valuable they could be for things not considered yet, like just walking deep into forests and monitoring the local environment, sampling, etc.
Anyhow, it's the first thing which came to mind when you mentioned a billion robots. On that front, I think we're maybe 8 years out from mostly-competent robots. Certainly, local LLM compute will be super cheap even in a few years, so no issues with a robot having multiple LLMs onboard. But I do wonder, if we can't do competent self-driving, will we have competent robots?
I'd peg robots at years after perfect self-driving, and we're years from that. Robots would need to navigate far more random, uncertain terrain/locations.
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I will agree that chat apps and feeds on facebook are a large swath of info. I just don't think it compares to gmail, and of course all the other data I've mentioned. The power of Android and even push notifications, from a data collection perspective is beyond immense. Amazon at one point stopped sending details of purchases via email, eg "we have your order" emails, because Google was snarfing data and purchasing t…
Not that I would call California a left wing state, but prop 13 came about during Reagan, and it has been incredibly sticky afterwards even if it isn’t something that would pass today. Also, schools are funded by the state rather than via local property taxes mainly because of prop 13. It’s odd by American standards, but probably more closely resembles funding models of European countries more than other states do. B…
Note that I'm not saying many of the polices are wrong, just that they're US labeled 'left wing'.
Prop 13 I now see did change how taxation for schools was handled, so thanks for that info. I frankly support the logic. Old people being priced out of their homes is a real thing, and terrible. Still, it's the implied variability of income source which is what "funding from the lottery" implies. It grates on me.
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> FABs are another issue entirely. Re terafab. It's very difficult to audit silicon. Just cutting the top off a chip layer by layer and using an electron microscope, isn't going to fully give you trust. People have been worried about their designs being modified at the fab for a long time. Ah well. Sure, sure, but that's not why I used terafab as a question for "what if competent AI?" The details on that are… ugh. Th…
Yes, it can be disconcerting to consider such. In anyone's singular control. And that number of robots is indeed sort of the plan. This is a loooong podcast, but was just great from start to end. Multiples of the neurolink team were interviewed, including Musk at the start. https://podcasts.happyscribe.com/lex-fridman-podcast-artific... I think Musk's interview is maybe 30 minutes? Certainly less than an hour. In it…
I think this depends on what is meant by "mostly-competent".
As you say:
> I'd peg robots at years after perfect self-driving, and we're years from that. Robots would need to navigate far more random, uncertain terrain/locations.
I'd put a 10 year gap between "self-driving car of quality X" and "humanoid robot able to get into driving seat of car, drive it at quality X", just on a power-envelope basis.
For this part, I'd have to disagree:
> Certainly, local LLM compute will be super cheap even in a few years, so no issues with a robot having multiple LLMs onboard.
While some LLM will be able to fit (and already can because some fit on a phone), the AI we have now in LLMs (and VLMs) is much too spiky for this use. Recent Anthropic and OpenAI models have just given me half a dozen different confident identifications for the same plant, many of which were easily falsified even by comparing what was in the image to what the AI's text output claimed it had seen in the image, like the leaf shape and how many came out of each node.
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People like to say things like this and present zero links. It should be easy to prove, but you'll link when he waved to the crowd or whatever.
Also, after Elon bought Twitter, when people called me the n-word and I reported it, moderation said no rules were broken and no action would be taken. Before he bought twitter that was not the case, they'd be banned. So you can buzz off with this nonsense. I won't break any rules and say what should be said.
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But if we never had, those deaths would have been happening that whole time, wouldn't they? Unless you're saying that the aid being there in the first place was actively discouraging any self-sufficiency by the sovereign governments who are actually responsible for those areas... in which case I can see why some people (both in the West and the developing world) oppose foreign aid in the first place. Even if we passe…
Maybe the deaths would have happened, or maybe these places would have become self sufficient or received aid elsewhere. There’s really no way to know. But we committed to providing this aid. Even if we think it would be better in the long term for others to do it instead, there’s no excuse to cut it off suddenly without making reasonable efforts at a transition. Imagine you’re the long term caretaker for a family me…
The people at risk witout the aid, though, are more comparable to a drug-addicted teenager who has criminally negligent parents than a truly-disabled grandma. Hopefully we can save a little bit of the blame for those local kleptocrats, who have been absorbing aid from all available sources and failing to properly govern since the creation of most of these countries. (Yes, I agree with you that our current iteration of government are mostly kleptocrats themselves).