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Germany maybe found a new source of renewable energy

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Re: Germany maybe found a new source of renewable energy

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Post by nkmnz »

maxhille wrote: post #119
nkmnz wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What/who do you mean with "movements"? Peace movement, environmental movement, anti-nuclear movement. > Are you implying that 1986 was a Russian propaganda plot? Two things can be true at the same time. Something can be objectively bad, but the magnitude of consequences can still depend on how bad actors exploit their opportunity. Ignoring that is what I refer to as "low-resolution thinking". You see Chernobyl or F…

Where is fracking being done in Germany today?

I stand partly corrected, the last fracking was done 2011, and I cannot find any information if the site is still active today. There have been more than 300 active sites. New ones have not been opened, but NOT due to laws, or lack of economical or technical feasibility, but due to local NIMBYism, which furthers the point I made: fearmongering, supported in relevant parts by foreign assets, is the strongest force. I'm still positive that Ukrainian blood spills our drinking water a hundred times more than conventional fracking ever has and ever would.

Re: Germany maybe found a new source of renewable energy

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Post by Saline9515 »

pydry wrote: post #90
Saline9515 wrote: post #85

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Solar panels and wind turbines are useful, but don't provide the base power a network needs to be stable, and on-demand capacity to give some flexibility. Ironically, fossil fuel electricity plants have to be built as part of renewables projects to make them viable. This is why after having spent a trillion of euros in renewables, Germany still has the highest cost of electricity and still relies on French nuclear to…

Neither does nuclear power. This is why when half of the French nuclear power plants were down for unscheduled maintenance in 2022 they had to import German solar and wind energy and burn a ton of gas. Gas, batteries, grid interconnects and pumped storage are the only things which can stabilise the grid to properly match supply with demand. There is far more money available for all of them if you don't have to spend…

France had to reduce nuclear maintenance for a long time to pay for the EU rules that forces it to give discounted nuclear electricity to private producers, which led to the situation you mentioned. Besides, french nuclear is important in stabilizing the german grid by adding/removing up to 20% power with a short delay. This leads however to increased wear on the reactors and maintenance needs.

And interestingly, you mentioned gas: in 2022 the EU went through a major energy crisis as Germany was counting on Russian gas to produce electricity. Pumped storage is finite and already maximized in Europe, same as hydro. Batteries are still unproven economically at scale.

One can accept climate change but be sceptic about the solutions pushed by the various lobbies, which led to the downfall of German's industry.

Re: Germany maybe found a new source of renewable energy

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Post by Incipient »

causal wrote: post #3
markkitti wrote: post #2

They found some potential geothermal wells near where they were previously mining.

Yeah title is way off lol

Nitpicking - I'd argue the title is spot on! It's a new source of energy. Not a new type. But yeah, I clicked expecting a research article. Not a deep hole.
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