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Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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mghackerlady wrote: post #336
otabdeveloper4 wrote: post #199

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> It's largely driven by a kind of retro nostalgia Incorrect. The reasons why vinyl specifically is still relevant (as opposed to any other "retro" audio format) are technical. Vinyl avoids compression issues by design. (Compression both in the computer science sense and in the audio engineering sense.)

Give me a break. CDs aren't compressed and sound flawless if the mixing is good. it also isn't dependent on things like the quality or age of the disc. And sure, a bad player might sound a bit worse than a high quality one, but that mostly comes down to the DAC in it, whereas with vinyl depends on the player a lot more by virtue of being a mechanical format

All audio is "compressed" to an element, there are frequencies that aren't reproduced

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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mghackerlady wrote: post #339
konart wrote: post #169

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This is very far from truth unless you only listen freshs pop music. And even then it is easy to click a song only to receive "not available in your region".

no, I've found many an album on youtube that isn't anywhere else and was uploaded by a random guy 10 years ago

That's still piracy

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by marysol5 »

abc123abc123 wrote: post #216
konart wrote: post #169

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This is very far from truth unless you only listen freshs pop music. And even then it is easy to click a song only to receive "not available in your region".

What? I find plenty of jazz and classical music on youtube. yt-dlp -x is your friend. I find it amusing that youtube can be the source of my "pirated" music and get away with it. But the piratebay guys got their lives smashed to pieces. But that I guess, is our civilization today. One set of rules for politicians and corporations, and one set for the slaves.

TPB were actively advocating and facilitating the upload of owned content. YT reacts to takedown requests and even re-directs advertising revenue to the rights holders.

You know TPB is a company right? They even run a paid VPN service. And half of their business was "bulletproof hosting".

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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CoolestBeans wrote: post #56

One thing I miss about the iPod era is that Apple knew they were selling a device to play pirated music. It doesn't take much look at how much music an iPod could store, how much music cost, and how much people had in disposable income to spend on music to realize that music had to come from other means. The iPod and P2P file sharing were incredibly synergistic in a way that makes me giggle. The iTunes store is just…

Not really, you have to rip CD's and import them into their software to load up the iPod.

Ripping CD's for personal usage and storage is perfectly legal everywhere

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by marysol5 »

AntronX wrote: post #434
port11 wrote: post #306

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Yeah, GP is rose-tinting piracy and Apple’s stance a bit… When I was a teenager we had _dial-up_. My first 2 iPods were strictly playing ripped CDs, which I, friends, or family had bought. Buying the iPod itself was probably cheaper than 2 months worth of internet traffic back then.

It took about 30 minutes to get 3.5 MB mp3 song over dial up. I would let downloads run overnight and could get a dozen songs by next day. I would do my bulk mp3 downloading in the morning before class at schools library to immediately transfer over USB to my 4 GB Archos Jukebox hard drive mp3 player. That was around 2001 - 2003 either before schools blocked p2p or I must have been using public file downloading sites…

"I did not have sexual relations with that women"

FUCK SAKE

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by marysol5 »

pluralmonad wrote: post #376
tclancy wrote: post #358

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I mean, sure, but at some point with 3 or 4 thousand cds crated up, it became a lot easier to steal than go crate digging in my own basement. And then when what.cd happened and you could literally grab a torrent of perfectly curated files of an artist’s whole catalog, the laziness really spiked.

Brother, arranging 0s and 1s a particular way on storage you own is not theft in any context.

So you're happy with private documents like banking records, credit numbers, nudey photos being available. It's just "ones and zeros" after all?

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by marysol5 »

ssl-3 wrote: post #337
itsmartapuntocm wrote: post #319

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Arguably it hurt them with the PSP as well by trying to get everyone to buy UMDs for their movies and store music on memory sticks.

Perhaps so, but they were clueless: The PSP was so easy to mod and run pirated games and emulators with that I'm not sure if I've ever tried to run a UMD in the one I have.

Took a fair while for people to "jailbreak" the PSP.

But then when they discovered that there was a factory bypass in the battery, it was game over

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by marysol5 »

ryandrake wrote: post #377
ValdikSS wrote: post #145

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Yes, that's true, but the core reason there are private p2p sites is because you're most likely to get a DMCA violation letter from the watchdog company via your ISP or to you directly in the West. Even if it may be not a punishable offense, that still freaks out people, and they choose not to seed from home or use public websites which are scraped by DMCA watchdogs. I don't see much point in contributing to closed s…

I think for normal people, private trackers seem inaccessible and might as well not exist. When I was a kid, I had gobs of free time and spent most of it dialing into BBS systems, learning who to contact, and navigating the scene's trust network, just to get invites to warez sites. Now that I'm an adult, I'm a lame Casual, too busy living my life to have time to sit there figuring out the secret handshake needed to g…

"Normal" non-techy people don't understand torrenting either, and it's not like it's a new technology. Never mind jumping through hoops to get onto private trackers, port forwarding to ensure seeding, etc

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by marysol5 »

fsflover wrote: post #559
ValdikSS wrote: post #145

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Yes, that's true, but the core reason there are private p2p sites is because you're most likely to get a DMCA violation letter from the watchdog company via your ISP or to you directly in the West. Even if it may be not a punishable offense, that still freaks out people, and they choose not to seed from home or use public websites which are scraped by DMCA watchdogs. I don't see much point in contributing to closed s…

> because you're most likely to get a DMCA violation letter This is why I don't understand why I2P trackers that provide full anonymity do not get more attention.

That would require you to jump onto an entirely new internet, and thats outside the remit of most people.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by marysol5 »

muppetman wrote: post #57
omgmajk wrote: post #28

Music piracy is alive and well if you know where to look. Some places has been mentioned in this thread already. Of course there is no replacing the magic of early 2000-2010's p2p sites like OiNK, What and Waffles - but well curated sites still exist.

Indeed. I'm a member of a few music trackers and they have a lot of great stuff, but What's archive was amazing. One of my proudest things I own is a What.cd beer cooler I bought from them.

Here's the other side of the issue for these platforms, they're profiteering from the criminality of the users
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